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    for those who don't know:

    snowflake is a project by TOR that allows people to access censored services. Anyone can run a snowflake proxy. I'm using their firefox extension. more details here: https://snowflake.torproject.org/

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    [–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Any repercussions by doing this?

    [–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The snowflake proxy acts as a bridge to the tor network at the entry side. If by repercussions you mean risk of exit-node traffic, there are none. It might cost a little bit of bandwidth.

    [–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

    There's the necessary info, thank you! - I've heard horror stories about hosting exit nodes, and was immediately spooked this would result in the same issues.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    so. basically alternative tor entry points you can run in your browser for those who can't connect directly to the tor network themselves?

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

    Indeed. This works because direct connections to the tor network are easily censored, but WebRTC is not (not without a lot of collateral damage at least).

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I've been doing it for quite a few months now, and I haven't met any.

    it's basically a WebRTC connection between snowflake extension, and someone using tor. WebRTC is a common medium for peer-to-peer communication, so it can't be blocked easily. Many popular services use WebRTC. e.g.: Matrix protocol, video conferencing services like jitisi meet, etc.

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And here I thought Snowflake was just a slow but scalable database.

    [–] nomecks 4 points 1 year ago

    It's also a data lake marketplace!

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    Today I Learned

    [–] Cruxifux 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I wasn’t aware my country had online censored services. Is there a way to see what Canada even has censored?

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    OONI Probe (it's in the F-Droid "Guardian Project Official Releases" repository)

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    Is OONI probe really reliable? It's saying that nothing's blocked in my country even if we're literally under authoritarian rule.

    [–] whileloop 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
    [–] Jmr 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Mine is in docker. I don't know if I can see the stats

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    You can, just have to pull the logs. If you use Portainer you can view them via the web interface under the container > logs.

    [–] Jmr 1 points 1 year ago
    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

    I run multiple snowflakes in a docker container. They each have an average of 8 connections per hour

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

    Rarely more than 3-4 per day nowadays, often not even 1. About a year ago it was easily in the double digits any given day.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

    I didn't know Firefox had a extension like that. I have Orbot set to when I'm on WiFi it opens a snowflake proxy. I have helped 29 people this week using orbot.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

    Good to know. I'm gonna host a standalone proxy

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    Thanks for telling me, I just installed it!

    [–] guriinii 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    What's the difference between this and a VPN? Aside from torrent sites what is actually censored?

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    This has nothing to do with torrents. Tor is a browser as well as a service of 3-chain proxies(triple vpn so that none of the three servers have all necessary information to find you or what you're accessing. Snowflake proxy is run locally and acts somewhat like a proxy running in your device helping others to access internet via you to circumvent censorship which happens kn their region and not in your region

    [–] _hovi_ 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I have almost no knowledge on this topic but if it's just their request going through your computer, is that not how vpns work? Also what happens if they're searching illegal topics in your region, like criminal stuff, I'd assume you could get in trouble for that?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I said "triple layered vpn" because its somewhat like a vpn. But triple layers means the other person is accessing the internet through your computer and also through other conputers as well so that you cannot compromise the anonymity of the user because you are only one in three nodes. If you are end node, you can get info about the sites they visit but no information about who they are(not even ip because only first node gets that). The first node can see who you are but does not know what sites you visit(only third node knows that) and second node does not know about both of theese but has the information to identify the two end nodes and also makes sure that first node does not know the last node.

    [–] _hovi_ 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ok I see, so running this is basically like running a Tor node, with the same risks involved as well?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Snowflake is for places where the tor network itself is blocked. You can uncensored internet with tor but if tor is blocked, you have to use some bridges to connect to tor network. But bridges needs to be configured and people who host bridges have some expense to keep it online. Snowflake is a temporary bridge which anyone can enable anytime and stop anytime. People who tries to connect through snowflake can easily connect automatically to any active snowflake proxies and also find a new snowflake proxy when current one goes offline.

    Here is the official note about it

    [–] _hovi_ 2 points 1 year ago

    I see, thanks for explaining

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    just spun it up on Docker, anyone know how to monitor its use?

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Turns out its in the logs, whoohoo!

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    thanks for sharing mate, I'll run it on server too!

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
    [–] neonred 2 points 1 year ago

    A snowflake with eight branches... *sobs

    Cool project, though

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    First time hearing about this. Installed it on both my laptop and desktop. Helped 3 people so far :)