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A few days ago the Beehaw admins decided to defederate this instance, which means (as far as I understand Lemmy) we should not receive new content from their side. However I keep seeing new posts and comments on my subscriptions (example in the screenshot). Should this be happening? Have they re-federated lemmy.world recently and I missed the news?

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[โ€“] derfl007 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As i understood it, we can still see content from beehaw, but beehaw users can't see other instances anymore.

Edit: Or what this guy said

[โ€“] SirMrR4M 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

From what I understand we still have the copies of their communities and people can still post in them. They just won't be in sync with the "true" community over at beehaw. I bet if you check the users none of them are from beehaw

[โ€“] scorchingheat 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's exactly where my question comes from: I understand that existing Beehaw posts (from before the de-federation) are still visible and interactable from lemmy.world (albeit only lemmy.world users will see the new comments), but I thought new posts would never reach this instance.

[โ€“] T156 2 points 2 years ago

New posts from beehaw can't reach this instance, but there's nothing that really prevents people from posting to it from here or another instance, which would add a new post to the community, even if it doesn't update on Beehaw's end, and we don't see any comments that do get added to the post.

[โ€“] SirMrR4M 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes but they are post from users not on beehaw. We have a mirror on our instance on which you can still post and comment. So those posts are new, but they're not from beehaw. And if you have an account on beehaw you won't see the posts you see here. If you're seeing posts from beehaw users then somethings wrong

Basically upon defederation, we kept the community and you can still post to it. It just won't sync with the real one

[โ€“] scorchingheat 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

OK this finally made it click for me: new posts can still be created on the old version of the community that is hosted on lemmy.world, they just don't sync back to the version hosted at Beehaw (their users don't see it, everyone else does).

That does make me wonder how these "mirrored" communities get moderated though. If Beehaw users can't see the new post, what's stopping anyone from spamming these communities?

[โ€“] SirMrR4M 1 points 2 years ago

I really have no idea about moderation :/ I'm not seeing a way for the original mods to do it (obviously) so maybe they really can turn into troll farms.

[โ€“] scorchingheat 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Another example (a Beehaw post from 4 hours ago with 0 comments):

The only thing I can think of: the OP ([email protected]) is registered to a different federated instance so we still receive the new post (even if posted to a de-federated one), but I'm curious if that's intended behavior.

[โ€“] EvilEwok 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've definitely seen base level posts from beehaw users. Just with no comments.

And then if you switch accounts to something on another instance(non .world), there are comments. So some things aren't coming through.

[โ€“] scorchingheat 1 points 2 years ago

So far I haven't been checking in which instances the OP was registered, but I'll keep an eye out to confirm.