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I thought data caps for home internet were a thing of the past…

I’ve somewhat recently moved back to a very rural area of the Midwest. Small town. No stop lights. Biggest businesses other than the bars are Casey’s, Subway, and Dollar General.

And we have one ISP (not counting DSL) — Mediacom. When we first signed up, I had to go with the second service tier. But not because of speeds, but so I could have a reasonable 1 TB/mo data cap.

Lucky me, they increased the cap to 1.5 TB. 🙄

I hope that in my lifetime I can see ISPs regulated as a public utility.

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[–] [email protected] 156 points 10 months ago (7 children)

In Switzerland you get unlimited 10 Gbit/s for 50 bucks.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I hate you, congrats!

In Canada we have to give our firstborn to a telecommunication monopoly for somewhat OK internet.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

Somewhat OK internet on the infrastructure our taxes paid for and the government handed over to Bell and Rogers, but don't worry, they'll stop all the other evil corporations from coming in and giving us cheaper internet.

[–] Ironside 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

I pay 90 ish Canadian pesos for 1gb/1gb for Bell fibre. It's not too bad depending on your location, though that price is still too high. I'm at least making good use of it. 12tb of total transfers this month.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I pay 80$ for 1gb/750mb with bell. I could upgrade to 3/3 for 120$ but then they'd change my modem and the homehub 3000 was the last one I could remove the transceiver and plug fiber directly in my server opnsense router.

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[–] Jmr 14 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

WTF? 25gbps? Dang we really do have shitty internet in the States.

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[–] StayFrosty 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is it actually 10Gbit/s or just marketing? And how's the latency?

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Home internet data caps WERE a thing of the past when Obama appointed Tom Wheeler as FCC chairman, who then pushed rulings to classify ISPs as a public utility and started enforcing net neutrality. Companies that didn't play ball started getting fined until they fell in line. Being a former executive for a major ISP, he was very familiar with the anti-competitive practices and underhanded tricks those companies had been using for years; and he used those practices against them to finally make some pro-consumer progress for internet access in the US.

Then, Trump came in and put Ajit Pai in charge of the FCC (no joke, my phone kept auto correcting his name to Shit Pie). Anyways, Shit Pie tore down those rulings and undid all those years of progress as part of the Trump administration's anti-Obama initiative. Even though it was proven time and again that what he did was directly against public opinion, and that ISPs were flooding the public commentary with bot posts(some even made by dead people); Shit Pie continued to meme about himself and drink from an obnoxiously large Reese's coffee mug while doing so. At this point, every provider of internet services has added back data caps in the US, and they have continued to increase their prices to maintain that 99.9% profit margin. They've also locked down more areas to prevent municipal broadband services from forming, and they're even pushing for legislation to prevent them from ever happening.

The current administration has done absolutely nothing. In fact, they've been so unremarkable, I have no idea who is in charge of the FCC, and I don't feel like looking it up.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago (8 children)

In Thailand I'm getting 400Mbps upload and download with unlimited data.

It costs about 300฿/mo ≈ $8.7/mo

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

'Murica #1!!! (In high internet prices)

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (4 children)

USAGE ALLOWANCE?!?!

Laughs in Scandinavian

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Dude... The US is doing it wrong. SE Asia. 1Gbps symmetrical, unlimited, unrestricted. ~14US$.

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[–] RetroEvolute 31 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, the ISP cartels sucks. I've been stuck paying $170/mo for uncapped 1000/35mbps connection.

Thankfully, before the end of the year, a local ISP is moving into my area. They offer uncapped symmetrical gigabit, for $75/mo... I'll be saving $95/mo for BETTER service.

The longstanding ISP cartels should seriously be punished for the abuse of their market positions and failure to appropriately use government funding they've been given.

[–] grue 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

1000/35mbps

That download/upload dichotomy should be illegal in and of itself!

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (13 children)

In Germany we pay lots of money for 5G data volume. For me I got 20 Gigs for about 40 bucks, this is mostly Not a thing in the rest of Europe. But data plans on landlines are really dumb.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Pretty sure europe doesn’t have caps on landlines because of European wide regulation. If you really think about it, caps on mobile data are also fairly stupid

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Well mobile data is very different. With fibre optic you can generally keep provisioning more cables and a single cable already carries a huge amount already.

Radio has an absolute efficiency limit for the bandwidth of a signal and we're pretty damn close to that now.

5g uses wider bandwidth channels, with more cells closer together and uses things like beamforming. But there's still always going to be an upper limit that is considerably lower than fibre.

This is why they likely want to discourage 5g becoming a full alternative to wired, because there's just not the capacity to do it on the same scale.

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[–] fne8w2ah 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

$40 for 2 Gbps unlimited in Singapore. Caps on home broadband are frankly nonsensical.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

I'm reading all the comments and I'm shocked... In France, with uncapped access and 1Gbps down/600Mbps up (theorical) I pay 40€/mo (30€ every six month when I call to complain that it's too expensive). And it's definitely not the cheapest provider.

That's insane !

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I was very close to closing on a house in rural midwest but I checked isp's and every one available had caps so I just stayed away.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

lol uncapped 500mbps fiber (actual fiber directly to your house) connection is 10-12$/month in Ukraine

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Looking at all you guys with your gigabit connections, meanwhile I'm in Aus and lucky to get 30 down and 15 up

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[–] CatTrickery 15 points 10 months ago (10 children)

I live in the UK and currently have copper cable at about 60mbps for £60 per month. I thought what I had was bad because I have a friend who gets 1gbps for £30 a few miles away.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where I am, there was only one provider of internet for a long time, and I was paying for a plan that's more or less what you have right now. Then another company came in and laid fiber, and both companies slashed prices and now I get over double my download speed, no data cap, and something crazy like 50x the old upload speed all for like 20 dollars less a month! Before I switched to the fiber company, the first company even increased my download speeds without increasing the price! Anyone who says competition doesn't change things is crazy.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree 9 points 10 months ago

Competition is beautiful ain’t it?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Lol Germany here checking in 500/50 for 29.99

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (6 children)

In Brazil I pay 20 USD for 500mb. There are plans in my area that sells 1gb for 30 USD. Thay can't put data caps due to legislation, only on mobile data (which I pay 6usd for 20gb cap, 5g)

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[–] Treczoks 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well, the internet companies have successfully bribed politicians to avoid competition. This is just the normal result of everyday corruption.

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[–] WereCat 13 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I had uncapped 500/50Mbps for €10 but now I moved to a village and I'm stuck with 100/10Mbps for €20 :(

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Shit dude, I pay €20 for synchronous 1Gb/s.

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[–] FailBait 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

About to move to a new house, pretty much had to harass Verizon for a week to add the address to their database so I could move our service.

$70/mo for 1Gig up/down with no cap. The alternative was Xfinity.

I was not going to Xfinity.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yea while we were in alaska we were capped. we were in fairbanks as well, which isn't that rural. I lived in the high desert of california. drive 20 min from hesperia to phelan and you could probably get meth easier than consistent internet.

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[–] kite 11 points 10 months ago

OP, check out the websites about grants ISPs are getting to put fiber in rural areas and see if your area is on the list somewhere (I would try and link you to some, but I'm on mobile and for some reason I have a hell of a time finding those sites while on mobile). You can see below what I've had to deal with for about 20 years, until my area finally got covered by one of those grants a few months ago. I am super rural - like, I am literally surrounded by nationally protected forest and nothing else; it'snot a place I thought would ever be included in those grant locations. It was, though, and I now have Gigabyte internet with no cap, with VOIP, for $74.98 a month. If I'm not using WiFi, I get an actual gig of download speed. If I'm on wifi, it's usually between 600-900MB.

Up until recently, we paid Centurylink about $150 a month for two lines into the house. Each line maxed out at 0.75MB download speed and 0.23 MB upload speed. We needed two lines to even be able to function. Almost 20 years of this, with no other options besides Hughesnet. We tried them for a little while; their equipment cost a fortune, it was about$150 a month, the speed was nearly as bad and they had a 200MB A MONTH CAP. We had to turn off images for websites in order to not go over the cap. Previous to 2004, I lived in a very rural part of NY. We had high speed internet for $69 a month, no cap. I can't remember the speed, but I remember that it took 3 minutes to download a full sized movie. 20 YEARS AGO the internet was better, and cheaper!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

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AP WiFi Access Point
DNS Domain Name Service/System
IP Internet Protocol
IoT Internet of Things for device controllers
Plex Brand of media server package
VPN Virtual Private Network

6 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 12 acronyms.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Our local fiber (1000/1000) is truly unlimited and just had a price decrease from $120 to $100. Never had an ISP do that before!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh boy, you're still lucky with your data cap 🙂

Mine's ~90 Mbps down, ~35 Mbps up, 10 GB open access + 8 GB site-specific of your choice, you reload it weekly for $2.

There's also a 1 GB "Metaverse Go" bandwidth as well, I have no idea which sites are included in that because when I download updates for my Fedora laptop and download apps from Flathub, it uses that bandwidth.

[–] Reaper948 9 points 10 months ago

Mediacom is the worst, data caps and low speeds for high prices, straight highway robbery. I'm lucky to have a local ISP with no data caps and a mostly reasonable price, cheaper than Mediacom at least. And soon to be fiber when they make it over to my neighborhood. They're currently in the process of running fiber to every neighborhood in my city.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

$70? In Australia I pay $85 for 75/20 unlimited.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Allowance" what the fuck? Aren't they infantilising their customers?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This is almost started price in Canada

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