So happy that people make the same narcissistic finger-wagging posts that were so beloved on Reddit.
this post was submitted on 15 Aug 2023
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I get where your argument stems from, and I do agree with it when it comes to actual file hosting. But lemmy instances don't host any files other than images. People are only talking about piracy. There isn't anything illegal going on, risking liability by letting people discuss shit.
I find it far more compelling to focus on the argument against the whiny people that the community was in violation of the rules established by the instance the entire time it existed. The instance didn't change the rules all of sudden, it just decided to enforce them.
It's not the end of the world. Make a new instance. An instance specifically devoted to piracy. Then you can do whatever the hell you want because a pirate is free.
Imo, if you really care that much to to another instance or host your own.
This needs to be upvoted to the top.
All those entitled kids need to read this classic also: https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/02/hey-elon-let-me-help-you-speed-run-the-content-moderation-learning-curve/
That was a really good read. It explains why the internet since "Web 2.0" is getting so controlled by a handful of large corporations. It's basically impossible for small organisations to moderate and comply with all laws in all countries. Especially when a significant subset of their users are intentionally making it difficult.
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I like this move from lemmy.world since too many users have seen it as the default instance to make communities. Was the reason why I was glad when Android from reddit came here and started their own instance. Communities being spread out so there isn't a single point of failure is nice, and it's only a few communities affected if you decide you don't want anything to do with them for whatever reason. So this has led to good reflection.
I do not think there's much risk to hosting a forum talking about piracy, even less so when your forum is simply connected to it.
Im personally not a big fan of defederation. It just seems to split the user base, it's extreme like cutting your arm off to avoid some poison ivy. In the end, it reduces the amount of users a post gets too and reduces the number of comments and general engagement. It has its place and I don't think this was it.
It's also annoying to have to create different accounts. I didn't quit Reddit to start using 5 different mini reddits one at a time.
That being said, it's really hard to care about.
Well, they didn't defederate. The just blocked piracy specific communities, not instances. The instances are easily accessible, you just can't got to the piracy communities on them, from World