They never stopped being the nasty party.
this post was submitted on 13 Aug 2023
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The statement implies they apparently experienced a fleeting realisation that they were the nasty party... When that moment was is anyone's guess, as they've never changed their actions based on that information.
And it was said by Theresa May, who went on to lead the party after it remained nasty...
A conservatives idea of "nasty" is polling poorly and losing elections; nothing more.
Ah so history is just a circle.
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Bit of an understatement to worry about being the "nasty" party when you're actively murdering people in their own homes by choking benefits and allowing companies to price gouge us, as well as selling the country off to the highest bidder you doddering old cunts.
While also demonising immigrants and deporting them to some African country.
Well there's no danger of that. They can't even get them into a boat in our own country.
And the plan is Ascension Island now apparently, although it might as well be the fucking moon for how feasible it is.
All to avoid doing paperwork and actually processing them like everyone else seems able to.
Risk?
Again?
I see everything's been covered already. Good job everyone, see you next week.
The risk of us being tarnished then as the nasty party again, I think, becomes very real.
I understand that this is more aimed at moderate conservatives but still... Isn't it just a wee bit late to be realising this?
Ah shit, too late? But only by a few minutes, right?
"If we're quick with a response, maybe no-one will have noticed - right chums?"
i havent understood why labour hasnt been pushing the 'nasty party' line for the last few years tbh
their policies are objectively nasty
Two possibilities:
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It would be ineffective and so pointless.
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It would be effective, but then once Labour get into power and implement something vaguely Tory (or can be spun to be a bad thing), the Conservatives will conveniently ignore the fact that they would have implemented something similar and start saying "well who's the Nasty party now?" followed by jeers. And since, in this scenario, it was effective for Labour ousting the Tories, there's a strong chance it'll cause a swing back the other way next time.
Secret third possibility: Something something Blairite something something Blue Labour something something people sharing a glass house, etc. (Frankly at this point we have a choice of frying pan or fire and staying in this pan isn't doing us any good. Time to give the fire a go I reckon. Maybe the embers will glow red.)
Again? When did that ever change?
Always has been.
Risk?
Again? When did they stop?
Agreed. Also, how is your username so big?
No shit... 13 years of the country run to absolute exhaustion and you're still not sure how to read the room boys and girls?
Thanks for saving me the effort of posting this
The disguise never fooled us all. Some of us could always see them as what they are...
They are slow aren't they?
I think that boat has sailed.
Never changed, this guy must be coming off a 30 year crack binge to miss that one.
I can assure you that I've been seeing them as the nasty party uninterruptedly for the last forty years.
Fingers on the pulse, I see.
They already are. I don't really think they ever lost that reputation, except maybe briefly under Cameron.
Weren't they the nasty party in Dec 2019? I don't think the British public cares. The cruelty IS the point.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Cabinet ministers are now said to be among those expecting the party to back quitting the European convention on human rights (ECHR) as part of its next election manifesto, should their plan to deport migrants to Rwanda be blocked in court.
Tory supporters of staying inside the ECHR are taking comfort from the fact that just three months ago, Sunak endorsed the convention at a meeting of European leaders.
While No 10 sources said they believed their migration plans could be achieved inside the ECHR, the prime minister is expected to come under renewed pressure to back leaving the European court of human rights when MPs return to the Commons next month.
The news comes with other senior moderate Tories signalling they will battle to stop the party veering further to the right on culture war issues, or using green policies as a dividing line with Labour.
In an interview with theObserver, Andy Street, the West Midlands mayor and the most senior Tory outside London, said he and others needed to show their brand of Conservatism would be electorally successful.
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They had me at "risk".