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The Illinois State Supreme Court found a strict assault weapons ban passed after the Highland Park shooting to be constitutional in a ruling issued Friday.

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[–] money_loo 34 points 1 year ago

Finally, some good fucking news.

[–] MicroWave 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the ruling, which was 4-3, Justice Elizabeth Rochford wrote, "First, we hold that the exemptions neither deny equal protection nor constitute special legislation because plaintiffs have not sufficiently alleged that they are similarly situated to and treated differently from the exempt classes. Second, plaintiffs expressly waived in the circuit court any independent claim that the restrictions impermissibly infringe the second amendment. Third, plaintiffs’ failure to cross-appeal is a jurisdictional bar to renewing their three-readings claim."

[–] FireTower 6 points 1 year ago

The plaintiffs absolutely shouldn't have waived the 2A claim. They would have had a much stronger case arguing the Bruen standard.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What do you guys think of an "USA-News" sub?

Always those "US court decides X over weird US law, Court 2 decides Y, Court 3 decides both are idiots" littering the news.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Either way, us news is still going to be posted to news because it is news. It makes no specification on location and there seems to be far more US users than anywhere else. If you want to see other news, post it.

It's probably be a better option to make a "non-us news" community.

[–] MicroWave 5 points 1 year ago

Agreed. There’s already a thriving non-US news community at lemmy.world/c/world

[–] doomer 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm pretty sure all of the people you don't want having assault weapons in states like Illinois already have them.

I'm not so sure the ones those people dream of targeting have yet acquired reciprocal defenses.

Happy to see less guns around, but I do worry about the pre-existing distribution of them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

yes but everyone who wanted to smoke in the 80s and everyone who wants to smoke today does- but there are only less smokers and less smoke inside nowadays because it was legislated.

change can only come through attempting change

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[–] malloc 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The obsession of guns in the USA is insane.

  • Sandy Hook massacre of 2011 did not change anything.
  • Las Vegas massacre of 2017 did not change anything.
  • High school massacre of 2018 in Santa Fe, TX did not change anything
  • Grocery store massacre of 2019 in El Paso did not change anything
  • Robb Elementary massacre of 2022 in Uvalde did not change anything.
  • Outlet mall massacre of 2023 in Allen, TX did not change anything

(yes there are many more mass shooting prior to 2011 and in between. These are just the ones I can recall as of writing this post)

American Exceptionalism at its best

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[–] baatliwala 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do states have "Supreme Courts" in the US? What an odd naming scheme.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes. Each state has a Supreme Court of the state, and then there the Supreme Court of the United States for matters that regard the federation of the states. If it's only a state matter, it won't go to the SCotUS. The SC of the state is the highest court where the state law is applicable.

[–] Korn 7 points 1 year ago

Except for NY

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[–] Smokeless7048 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Such a weird way to sue against this law. What kind of equal protection defense could you wage?

[–] mipadaitu 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because why should a retired police officer be allowed to own a weapon that nobody else can? It only makes sense because otherwise they'd lose the support of law enforcement.

Either everyone should be able to own them, or nobody.

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