While I'm disappointed to see so many Reddit mods bend the knee, I also understand why.
Personally I won't be going back to Reddit after all this and I imagine many other power users won't be returning either.
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I also understand why
Would you share your opinion?
I understand why mods of communities would choose to back down and go public again, since the alternative is that reddit admins would take over their sub and potentially/probably ruin it.
So I can understand not wanting to see your community you've spent countless hours caring for, go down the gutters.
I wouldn't take the same action, but I can understand why some of these mods have chosen to give in.
I cant watch the video yet, but..
Failed? Well, as low as my expectations was, I'd call this a success so far. They've stressed the reddit leadership enough for them to take authoritarian actions making them look bad. Enough that reddit is running a pr campaign to paint us as "a few landed gentry who want stuff for free". Driven more than 30K people to alternative services. And the API isn't even down yet.
While I do agree with you that spez fucking up like this was, in a way, an excellent thing for the internet, by "failed," he was referring to the mods who went back to Reddit. And it appears that there were lots of them. It's more about giving up so quickly and protesting in a weird way rather than some people starting to migrate to open platforms.
This is still a success for me! I've been a local Armenian Mastodon user for a long time. Then Elon took over Twitter, and many folks I was interested in following migrated to Mastodon, finally making me open up an international/English account there. And now this allowed me to replace Reddit with a federated FOSS, which is super-cool! I'm grateful for that, actually!
Just finished watching the video - I think the main reason he's calling it a failure is because the site is effectively "business as usual" again as far as a regular user is concerned, with little positive outcome for the people affected by the changes. He also expresses concern about this setting a bad precedent.
Personally, I think the protest has been OK so far, a lot of nice folk have moved into the Fediverse (and other alternatives), with the toxic users mainly staying on Reddit. There's more 3rd party Lemmy apps in the works, and it's very active here with the ex-redditors.
All-in-all, a pretty positive outcome for some users like ourselves, but sadly not for everyone affected
Blackberry looks equally dissapointed
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Is it okay that I now view the reddit thing as noise?
Oh, don't worry: I value people saying "hey you dick" when people are being a dick. I totally respect people who protest things (although, ranting hillbillies blocking ambulances because trump told them to be afraid of the most tested vaccine on the planet, and somehow it's the ambulance's fault, can all die choking and alone with a tube down their throat and go straight to hell) and I support people having a sane voice that is heard.
No, I'm done with Reddit. I've accidentally clicked on a link twice in the last 2-3 weeks and found myself on the site, but that's it. I uninstalled R.I.F, removed the bookmark, walked away, stuck to it. I don't intend to go back even as often as I go back to Metafilter (because I respect metafilter). I just don't think abusers will change their tune; that while criminals can be rehabilitated, dicks cannot. And I'm okay not participating, not adding content that will just encourage others to stay.
Rule 5: even the worst problems look better in the rearview.
Bye, Felici--uh, Reddit.