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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

Oetker is also shit but less evil, I guess?

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

"Hey siri, give me a list of all the terrorist and militant groups that have killed more innocent people and destabilized more countries in a fragile position than Nestle willingly has purely in the pursuit of more profit?"

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)
[โ€“] Wizard_Pope 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I have a godly pizza recipe

Ingredients for the dough:  

400 g flour (type 500 or 00)  
280 ml water  
2 tablespoons olive oil  
1 teaspoon salt  
8 g fresh yeast  

DOUGH PREPARATION  

Pizza dough preparation process:  

Mix water, which should be at room temperature, with olive oil. Add salt and crumble the yeast. Stir to dissolve the yeast and let stand for about 10 minutes.
Pour the mixture into a bowl with flour and knead for about 20 minutes to obtain a soft, smooth and elastic dough.  

If necessary, you can add a little more water or flour while kneading.  

Shape the kneaded dough into a smooth loaf. Place it in a floured bowl and cover well so that it does not dry out during the rising process.  

First, let the dough rise for one hour at room temperature, then transfer it to the refrigerator for 48 hours.  

After 48 hours, remove it from the refrigerator and let it rise for one hour at room temperature.
Then take the dough out of the bowl and divide it into two loaves, if desired, for two pizzas. Brush the tops of the loaves with olive oil, cover with clear plastic wrap and let rise for another hour.  

Stretch the risen dough with your hands, forming a circle with your palms, from the center to the edge. To make it easier, you can also oil your hands a little.
Finally, use your fingers to form a few millimeters thick edge.  
 
Note: The dough can also rise overnight or for 24 hours.  

Bake on 270ยฐC preferably on a pizza stone if you have one.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I mean no one's replacing Dr oetker frozen pizzas with home made, the whole point of them is they're pretty cheap and you can throw them in the oven for a quick meal. Not saying you shouldn't make home made pizzas, these frozen ones are not good and also not very healthy, but I don't think this is one of those things you can directly replace with a home made version, the home made you'll make for a proper dinner or something. Maybe replace the frozen pizzas with something else that's equally quick/easy but more home made though.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, i do. It's quickly made if you buy the dough.

Then again, since i live alone, i started to assess meals by their nutritional value vs. calories, since you can only eat so much a day and i want to lose weight. It's second nature now and that might not be typical.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I'm right there with you, least year I lost 35kg by counting calories, and now I'm maintaining and working out, so while I don't count anymore I'm still following the principles I learned thought that and these premade pizzas are off the menu.... I'm just being realistic about how these frozen pizzas are used by folks who don't do that (they used to be my favourite quick lunch options in my pre-diet life). Your recipe included making the dough which is what really pushed it out of the realm of realistic.

[โ€“] camelbeard 2 points 16 hours ago

My goto frozen pizza "hack", just get the cheapest most basic pizza margherita, skip known brands and go for the housebrand/offbrand.

Buy some quality toppings and add them, like a spicey salami, aged cheese, etc.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Vive l'Italie? Is this French?

[โ€“] [email protected] 88 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Dr Oetker is european; and it isn't Nestlรจ

so that's two points it has over Wagner :)

[โ€“] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Wagner also committed war crimes in Ukraine. Or so I've heard.

[โ€“] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

No, you're thinking of the Wagner Group, a Russian paramilitary organisation.

This is Wagner, the antisemitic 19th century German composer.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Can he just go back to music? Ukraine and pizza is a bit too much for my liking.

[โ€“] IndiBrony 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No no, this is Wagner, the private liberal arts college on Staten Island. Those damn liberals with their New York based Hawaiian pizza.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Angry upvote

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[โ€“] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

as an avid frozen pizza enjoyer, both of these suck, taste wise

[โ€“] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (9 children)

which ones don't suck, MR frozen pizza connoisseur?

...

ok I admit I had to look up how to spell connoisseur so these forthcoming pizzas better be the bees knees.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Grandiosa has the best frozen pizzas.

[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (6 children)

This one sucks the least.

Of course nothing beats the absolute cheapest pizza you can find at the discounter when you're having a LAN party.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

Dr Oetker is miserable

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Came here to suggest an alternative: Crosta & Mollica

As far as I can tell they're even from Italy.

We kinda get the best of both worlds: we just get the bases and make what we want so the speed of a ready made pizza, but the flavours of home made.

But still, NO PINEAPPLE !!

[โ€“] camelbeard 3 points 16 hours ago

My supermarket sells these and they are superior to all other frozen pizzas I had.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The Crosta & Mollica Stromboli has ruined all other pizza for me. It's infinitely superior to everything except perhaps a genuine Italian fresh from the pizza oven.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

Yes pineapple, in moderation.

The meme is funny, but also quite silly. Contrasting savory and sweet tastes is a staple of Italian cuisine.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But still, NO PINEAPPLE !!

You're one of those sociopaths that puts kiwi on your pizza aren't you?!

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck..... that's probably actually really good.....sigh

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

@Sturgist @IsoKiero my Swedish friend introduced me to Flying Jacob and that stuff is so wrong and yet so right. What is it with Swedes and weird banana recipes

Also, a vote here for Goodfellas pizza (Birdseye). Very average but better than Dr Oetker by a country mile and the gluten free one is pretty decent

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

The fuck is a Flying Jacob?!

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I honestly have no idea. From wikipedia:

Flying Jacob Swedish casserole composed of chicken, whipping cream, chili sauce, bananas, roasted peanuts, bacon and Italian salad seasoning, which is a peculiar seasoning blend available only in Sweden. The dish is baked in an oven and is usually served with rice and a salad.

That didn't help much on understanding it. And those are just your regular banans, not the kind you can get from chinese restaurant or something like that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Plantains? But smaller, bit more bitter, absolutely banging in a Jamaican curry? Or fried....fuck....now I'm hungry.....

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

@Sturgist @IsoKiero no, these are literally just bananas, cooked in a dish with some other random ingredients.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Errr... sorry, miscommunication. @[email protected] had been saying that Flying Jacob is made with regular bananas, not the one's you get at an Asian market. And I was asking if they meant plantains, which are bananas but different. More starchy.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

if they meant plantains, which are bananas but different

Which I did. In here they're referred as 'food bananas' or 'cooking bananas', I just didn't bother to look up the correct name.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, I've heard em called cooking bananas before

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

@Sturgist it is so, so wrong. I've only had it once and I remember it being confusingly good https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying/_Jacob I sort of liken it to weird American recipes like marshmallows and sweet potato (which I've tasted and did *not* like, so who knows)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying/_Jacob

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds hideous.

One thing I grew up eating, and I know a few other people who did as well, we all seem to be from North American families of Scottish descent, but have been in NA for the Great Depression....

Peanut butter and mayo sandwiches. I know it sounds disgusting, but it is legitimately good. Big glass of milk of the side.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

@Sturgist honestly I like the sound of the sandwich more than the glass of milk! I've never really understood big cups of milk (my kids love them though). But as a marmite aficionado I am totally on board with you-do-you sandwich combinations.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe slightly lactose intolerant? I can guzzle milk, cheese is no issue, but cooked milk, custard and stuff, kills me.

Highly recommend peanut butter and mayo sandwiches! If you can find the Japanese mayo brand Kewpie, it's highly superior.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

@Sturgist yes I am!
I have heard good things about kewpie! But I have *also* heard British people say it tastes just like something we have here called salad cream, which is bewildering as nobody under about 70 would generally admit to liking salad cream

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I live in Scotland. Anyone who tells you Kewpie tastes like salad cream needs to stop drinking petrol....
I guess there's a bit of a similar umami to both, Kewpie because it's made with dashi (seaweed and fish stock) though it doesn't have enough to taste of dashi....if that makes sense.

I assume salad cream has something like an 80 year fermentation period before it's "done" stuff is mingin ๐Ÿคฎ

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

@Sturgist it's absolutely rank ๐Ÿ˜‚ that gives me more confidence to bother buying some kewpie. Think they sell it in Sainsbury's...

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

I'd look for an Asian supermarket. Pretty sure they do sell it at Sainsbury's, but I think the last time I was too lazy to go further than Sainsbury's I ended up paying ยฃ2-3 more than at the Asian market.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kiwis, no... Australians... maybe (jk)

No, I'm a firm believer in meat and spice on a pizza: 'nduja, jalepeรฑos and chorizo are my usual

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[โ€“] CitizenKong 2 points 1 day ago

Those Big City pizzas taste like cardboard anyway.

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