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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Now explain this to EU based corporations, which in my opinion needs to be the focus on making the change. They drive the economy. All major assets in software income are being routed to American firms through their licenses.

[–] utopiah 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Nice, DINUM is doing a lot so great to see go beyond with supra national collaboration!

I'm using NextCloud (Germany and international open source community) hosted on Webo (Slovenia) with data centers in Germany and Helsinki (so I bet on Hetzner). I'm happy with it but I'll keep on eye on https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs

[–] utopiah 2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I'd be curious, they use Minio which puts S3 first. Does it mean Docs (the official instance) is relying on AWS?

If so IMHO that's not a great default EU sovereignty.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I would assume (without having looked at the codebase) that if they use minio they are, by default, not reliant on AWS.

Minio is its own S3 implementation which can be self-hosted.

S3, being an AWS protocol originally has AWS environment variables all over the place but that does not necessarily mean a reliance on the service. Rather, they rely on the protocol and you bring your own S3 endpoint I would assume. be that minio, hetzner or what have you.

[–] utopiah 1 points 7 hours ago

Thanks for the clarification, that makes sense, closing the issue then.

[–] utopiah 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] cmhe 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I thought that MinIO is a Open-Source S3 implementation, which you can just install on your own system. S3 is a "protocol" here IIUC.

Is your complaint that they are using the S3 protocol, because it was invented and is controlled by AWS?

Or that some services might use it without MinIO, directly on AWS?

[–] utopiah 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Seems I misunderstood, if it's solely the branding (of that implementation) then it's fine. I thought they relied on AWS itself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Thats great

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

We already have kDrive you get 1TB storage for only 2€ a month, it's based in Switzerland

[–] asap 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Is there an open source implementation of kDrive as well?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

It is already open-source. All of the source code is on their github and, for docs, they use an implementation of onlyoffice very similar to the one in Nextcloud

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Oh that is good to know then. At a cursory glance I only saw the clients' software available as github repositories and the German and French wikipedia pages called it a proprietary service.

[–] stoly 16 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Really cool. I tried to sign up but you have to be part of an officially recognized organization in France and input their registration number as part of the process.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I thought this was open to the general public, I didn't realize that it was not

[–] stoly 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm sure it will be. This is a government funded thing in the early stages so I can see how they would set it up that way.

[–] meliaesc 7 points 17 hours ago

I definitely don't want the government attached to my personal files, in any country.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Calligra and LibreOffice already exist though. I am not against this in principle but couldn’t they have invested in an existing FOSS project?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 22 hours ago (8 children)

While both of those are great software. Unless I'm not aware of something they aren't cloud/network based office suites like Google docs and office 365.

It seems this is an alternative to office software where you can work simultaneously and share documents in the same cloud/network.

I don't think there is an alternative to office 365 and Google docs at this point that is open source. So this seems like a great project and I'll definitely be considering it for our company.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

What about Collabora Online? It integrates nicely into Nextcloud, but I am not sure about pricing for business use.

https://www.collaboraonline.com/collabora-online/

Guide for self hosting: https://collabora-online-for-nextcloud.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install/

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

A lot of government programs don't really make sense and are there just to put a name on a CV sadly. Collabora Online does exactly that and is primary licensed under Mozilla Public License.

They could have easily expanded Collabora. But you know, can't stamp your name on it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

To be fair, though a new project might not be as efficient as improving another, projects learn off each other, and sometimes it's good to have developmental 'competition', and variety.

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[–] genomebandit 23 points 23 hours ago

Really glad to see the EU adopt more open source software as a way to combat the centralized control some of the american software companies have over the space.

[–] flop_leash_973 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As someone in and from the US, good. Private companies are far to prevalent in public institutions all over the world. Something as basic and fundamental as word processing should not be controlled by a small select few huge international companies.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

What does this do over what the collabora tools in Nextcloud do?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

NGL I keep forgetting NextCloud has collaboration tools.

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