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Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Monday that Ukraine would have to make concessions over land that Russia had taken since 2014 as part of any agreement to end the war.

Mr. Rubio spoke as he was flying to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, for talks with senior Ukrainian officials, and 10 days after a contentious White House meeting between President Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky. The Trump administration halted military aid to Ukraine after the blowup, which centered on Mr. Trump’s refusal to include any security guarantees in a proposed deal involving Ukraine’s natural resources.

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[–] DaveyRocket 8 points 1 hour ago

Why would Ukraine be negotiating with another adversary? That’s like a boxer going to the wrong corner after the round, that guy also wants you to get your ass kicked.

[–] [email protected] 167 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Someone should invade Rubio's house and demand the deed to one of his rooms before they'll leave.

[–] [email protected] 200 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 84 points 5 hours ago

Yep, it's treason. And it's not just one guy.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

"Turns out, Russia doesn't want to concede anything and demanded more Ukrainian land. Well, we tried. Clearly, it's high time for Ukraine to stop getting in the way of peace."

  • Little Marco in a week
[–] homesweethomeMrL 100 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

FUCK YOU LITTLE MARCO

shithead.

[–] Zachariah 35 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Has he proved his citizenship?

[–] Yawweee877h444 51 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

At the rate we're going, I wouldn't be surprised if trump drops all sanctions against Russia, and starts even funding them and providing them US weapons and Intel. I just wouldn't be surprised.

[–] Makeitstop 39 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I would assume they're getting the Intel already. The entire administration is comprised of Russian assets and useful idiots. Even if the info isn't being handed to them directly, all the existing security is being ripped to shreds and the teams that would counter any threats have officially been told to ignore Russia completely.

That said, I wouldn’t put it past Trump to publicly give Intel to Russia, but only because he's an idiot and assuming there is a low he won't sink to his always a losing bet.

[–] Yawweee877h444 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if we're already in a slow rollout for him to go public with support for Russia. The deal could be that Russia and US split Ukraine in some way, whether it stays as "Ukraine" with installed leadership or blatantly annexed.

The problem is the maga cult and the Republicans in congress who would support it. The maga masses will lap up whatever propaganda they're fed like puppies and a bowl of peanut butter. But what the fuck are the Republican leadership thinking? At that point the US has fallen, but maybe it already has and we just don't know yet. But maybe not... time will tell.

[–] Litebit 2 points 48 minutes ago

Trump wants russia blessing when the US invades Greenland.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Likely true if we're being real but... You don't say that outloud you incompetent fucking negotiator.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Ukraine is winning. That's why Trump has stopped supporting them on request from Putin.

If your news isn't telling you Ukraine are currently stronger on the battlefield, change news outlets.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

Last I checked Ukraine is ceding a lot of ground in Kursk. Are you saying that's all a lie?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Russia is collapsing - this war is absolutely draining their economy. The questions are whether Ukraine could keep that momentum if the US suddenly cuts off communication media and whether continuing a war to a victorious position is worth the cost to Ukrainians. I'm not there, I don't get any input on the decision, but I'm absolutely understanding of my Ukrainian coworker that fled the country and wouldn't ill judge Ukraine seeking an earlier peace in exchange for concessions.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 hours ago

51% of respondents in December 2024 said that Ukraine should not give up any of its territories "under no circumstances... even if this would prolong the war and threaten the preservation of independence."

https://kyivindependent.com/38-percent-ukrainians-territorial-concessions/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Mind sharing a source. Latest stories i see is ukraine falling back in kursk and general russian advances on the main front

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 hours ago

He's a negotiator in the same way the drive thru person at McDonalds is a negotiator.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago

negotiator

I don't believe that Rubio has earned that distinction in the slightest, even in a derogatory manner. In fact, I am pretty sure that he has only ever once walked onto a used car lot and that resulted in only two things happening. One, learning that he ought not walk onto a used car lot. And two, the true value of a high mileage Jeep.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 hours ago

What a massive piece of shit

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 hours ago

Not one inch.

[–] HappySkullsplitter 10 points 4 hours ago

The US just decided that they're not part of the negotiations anymore

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago

“Let’s blow up the post war consensus and fuel everyone getting bombs.” This ain’t the way I thought we’d solve climate change, but making the human race extinct with nukes is certainly a way to avoid making them extinct through climate collapse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Peace in our time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It sounds like a new song from Putin's addiction..

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

Remember that one time when the US got in the way of peace when Britain invaded? Why were we so stubborn again? It's a mystery, but hopefully Ukraine doesn't repeat our mistakes.

[–] ChaosInstructor 5 points 59 minutes ago

they are ok with ceding Texas...