How does it feel, Americans? Not only have you finally lost the cold war, but now you're an extension of Russia's invasion efforts.
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How long until we deploy troops to Russia to help in their invasion of the Ukraine?
I mean how much more proof do we need that the white House has been annexated by the Russian government ?
This should be sending the alarm bells across the nation. Come the fuck on, we have never liked Russia. Its fucken telling how much Trump does. Pull Agent Krasnov from the assignment already you cowardly fucks.
Like idk it’s pretty fucking obvious that turd and soup are foreign actors imo, like in the traditional sense. It’s been pretty fucking obvious for a while, like weeks, months or years depending on your perspective I suppose. The question seems to be at what point does the weight of this fact break through the roof, so to speak.
I’m very disturbed at how many people don’t realize what appeasement does and that when Trump says “peace” he means “appeasement”. I’m afraid that too many people don’t realize this or are scared of WWIII (which means, let someone else die, not me). Why don’t people realize the consequences ofof appeasing Russia? What can be done about this?
I am sure we will start sharing intelligence with Russia soon. MAGA is a traitorous bunch.
What do you mean, "soon?" There's an entire fucking Wiki article about the "sharing" that's already happened!
Start?
Putin loves it.
Moscow Mitch helped!
Anti-freedom.
Just going to post some analytics here. To put things in oerspective
Real Leverage
Trump cannot exert economic pressure on Ukraine, and halting military supplies does not have an immediate effect. However, in my opinion, his most significant leverage is political. This factor could play a key role in forcing Ukraine into a peace agreement.
It’s important for understanding the context of why the U.S. needs this. For those who don’t want to read the full post, I’ll briefly summarize: The U.S. needs to contain China, which means preventing a China-Russia alliance. However, the U.S. lacks the financial resources, and due to this, Trump wants to scale back historical support for Europe.
Trump's declared foreign policy goals extend far beyond Ukraine. His aim is to restructure the entire global order and dismantle the foundational principles established during the Yalta Conference, which are now completely outdated.
Accordingly, a warming of U.S.-Russia relations is a completely natural and logical process from the standpoint of U.S. interests. And this should happen independently of Ukraine. However, as long as the war continues, Trump wants to link these processes together—essentially trading concessions and a war freeze in exchange for lifting sanctions and resetting relations. But this is not a strict prerequisite.
This is directly evident from Trump's rhetoric—he does not tie improved relations to specific actions from Russia, such as admitting guilt or paying reparations. On the contrary, Reuters has already reported that Trump has instructed the State Department and the Treasury to prepare a list of sanctions that could be lifted soon. While this likely won’t involve anything major at first, certain individuals could see sanctions removed. However, this in itself is an important signal: Ukraine is being separated from U.S.-Russia relations. For now, Trump does not want to make concessions in advance while negotiations are ongoing.
Yet, if the deal collapses due to Ukraine, then U.S.-Russia relations will develop without considering Ukraine at all, solely based on American interests. It seems that this mechanism was already set in motion after a White House dispute—CNN reports that preparations for a Putin-Trump meeting have been accelerated. Additionally, a second round of talks in Saudi Arabia is expected soon, where the focus is likely to be more on U.S.-Russia economic cooperation rather than Ukraine.
Any real steps in this direction will effectively lead to the EU lifting its own sanctions. Even now, secondary sanctions are more problematic than the primary ones. Countries like Turkey were willing to bypass restrictions, but Biden tightened the screws. Trump, however, doesn't even need to formally lift sanctions—he can just turn a blind eye to violations by third countries.
At the same time, if the U.S. officially lifts sanctions, Europe will have little choice but to follow suit. Many companies left the Russian market voluntarily, as a gesture of goodwill, without being legally required to do so. As a result, they could begin returning once their governments give a quiet green light—publicly condemning the move, but privately claiming they can't interfere because private companies are free to act in a democracy and capitalist system.
Right now, the only hope for hawks in Ukraine and the EU is to prolong the war, expecting that Russia will collapse under economic pressure, forcing Putin to negotiate from a position of weakness. However, if sanctions are lifted, this already uncertain scenario will become highly unlikely, making further war pointless for Ukraine. This would force Kyiv to either accept a far worse peace deal than what’s currently on the table or continue fighting alone, without any realistic hope of achieving what could be called a victory.
Tldr: trump is putins bitch, the US negotiates and bends over to terrorists.
Fairly neutral way of looking at it, and that's a nice thing to consider although I'm not sure if the U.S. is executing that correctly if you're correct. After all, making security guarantees is an even easier way to end the war, including appeasing Russia by at least allowing them to continue their occupation.
Hawks also have the possibility that Ukraine makes headway in the war itself, which was the hope of the Biden administration providing support in the first place since US-Russia relations aren't as valuable to most people as US-EU+others, even if China allies with Russia (which could still happen, as Russia hasn't proven to be trustworthy in the past, anyway).
In other words, hawks probably have it right that U.S. is better off with it's current allies, but if we give Trump the benefit it the doubt (a literal devil's advocate) then at least there's some rational, even if misguided. Plus, there is the truth that Ukraine is having difficulty taking back, although you could certainly say the US and EU haven't given them enough to push forward out if fear of nuclear retaliation.
The whole situation sucks, though, rationale or not.
This is a good analysis. Withholding intelligence sharing is indeed far worse for Ukraine than withholding military assistance considering, considering Ukraine has enough munitions to last a couple months whereas the end of intelligence sharing impacts it immediately.