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[–] CitizenKong 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Probably better than the 2025 reality version.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Where does this view that we live in 1984's world come from? Does 1984 simply mean "dystopia" now? 2025's reality isn't 1984, it's Idiocracy slowly transitioning to either Cyberpunk or Fallout. And even then it's not universal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Does 1984 simply mean "dystopia" now?

What, you expect people to read? To be familiar with a piece of media before they reference it?

At this point there's been a meme for years about people misusing it.

[–] Vikthor 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

What, you expect people to read?

So what you are saying is this is more like Fahrenheit 451?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 hours ago

Except it literally is. Every dissenting view gets called fake news and ignored. Trump supports ukraine yesterday and russia today. Violence gets threatened and used on those deemed "woke" and bathrooms are being surveiled.

The US (or at least part of it) literally lives in 1984.

[–] TheGrandNagus 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

You're right. People say "1984" to mean "dystopia" or "things I don't like about modern society".

Tangentially related, there was a survey a while back that found most people who say they have read 1984 haven't actually read it. So that may be part of it.

Personally, if we're going with the classic dystopian novels, I think we're more aligned with:

  • The anti-intellectualism/distraction from the real issues like we see in Fahrenheit 451. Arguably we have already started the book-burning. (Tbf, there's also practically no pre-big brother material in 1984, so clearly they went down the same route, although Orwell didn't go into that as deeply as Bradbury)

  • Keeping people docile with an endless stream of entertainment content and consumerism like in Brave New World.

...than we are with the "Oppression through fear and brainwashing from an all-powerful, all-seeing government" that we see in 1984.

But even then there are significant differences. E.g. unlike in Brave New World, there's no government-provided Soma drug to further placate us. Well, not unless you believe the chemtrail conspiracy theories lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

We’ve always been at war with…

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…Ukrainada