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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would be very interested to know how they plan to resolve these issues with "Ladybird." Using a new engine will likely clash with the FALSE "security measures" of many websites and harm the browsing experience. It’s often said that users should demand respect for web standards, but in the meantime, as usability declines, users will gradually drift away. Firefox learned this lesson the hard way.

[–] AdrianTheFrog 8 points 1 day ago

Servo is another wip web browser, managed by the Linux foundation's European branch. It's a little less far along but is making relatively quick progress now. Apparently discord already mostly works, with sending messages currently being a problem.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Pale Moon still exists? Huh

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just duplicated this. I downloaded Pale Moon and went to https://hear-me.social and clicked on "Register". It puts up a Cloudflare "managed challenge" which loops endlessly when using Pale Moon, but not the other browsers I've tried it with, including Zen, another Firefox fork.

It's a problem, for sure.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a staunch Pale Moon user, Cloudflare is just being a bully and I circumvent their nonsense when I need to desperately use a particular site or just don't go to that site anymore if I can do without.

[–] SerotoninSwells 6 points 1 day ago

Greed. I honestly don't know if they're even aware of the problem. Most corporations have cut teams to the bone and I can't see Cloudflare being an exception. The janitor is probably writing detection rules now.

[–] zorro 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I feel like I remember reading that the pale moon JavaScript engine was broken and causing the capcha to break repeatedly?

Let me see if I can find sources

EDIT: Looks like I was remembering a previous issue where the captchas were causing the entire pale moon browser to crash. I believe this has been fixed, but the new issue is a much less exciting block.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder what happens if you use Pale Moon but set the user agent to Firefox.

[–] dantheclamman 3 points 1 day ago

Another comment suggested that helped with LibreWolf, but that is a closer fork than Pale Moon, so not sure

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How can I test, if I get blocked? I just started using Waterfox and so far no issues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You can go to https://hear-me.social and click on the register button. This puts up a Cloudflare managed challenge screen which endlessly loops when using Pale Moon. It would be interesting to see if Waterfox has the same issue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Works fine with Waterfox.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Works with librewolf.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Took a minute and a refresh, but it worked on Ironfox on android.

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