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Me after Mozilla and Proton (i.imgflip.com)

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

Browsers I tried yesterday (on Linux):

Zen: neat, but the UI is too different for my taste
Floorp: also neat, but features I don't use
Waterfox: sweet spot for me

Librewolf and Waterfox seem pretty similar on paper. I went with Waterfox cuz idk. So far, Waterfox seems to be a drop-in replacement. I haven't noticed any problems with websites and haven't run into any bugs.

One note about Waterfox is that I would have liked if it was added to the official Arch Linux repos. I installed fine with the AUR, but still.

Bonus: Waterfox is available on Android! 🥳

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Try Mullvad browser, it works well in my opinion. It should be used with a VPN (i.e. shared IP address space) though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I like Zen for its different interface. I like having a built-in vertical tab bar. It's not as focused on privacy and security as Librewolf is, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

I found waterfox on aurora store android and below this stores page it lists trackers found: Mozilla telemetry, Sentry. What is the point if it gives Mozilla the same data? Or is this not whst i think it is?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

Is Zen still a safe bet? I’m using it currently and quite like it actually so I’m hoping it’s still a good option. I just frankly am pretty ignorant of all this browser shenanigans.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Is waterfox independent of system1 now?

ETA: they are apparently: www.farside.link/reddit.com/r/waterfox/comments/14phsyl/a_new_chapter_for_waterfox/

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One note about Waterfox is that I would have liked if it was added to the official Arch Linux repos. I installed fine with the AUR, but still.

Same for LibreWolf.

Bonus: Waterfox is available on Android! 🥳

I was thinking I should ditch android FF, too...

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Isn't one of the point of the phenom of enshifitication that it's near ubiquitous? The reason it can continue is because it reached a critical mass, leaving us few workable alternatives, like a symptom of monopolization. I'd wager some companies feel like they won't survive if they don't keep up, not sure if that assessment is true but I bet many think it is.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Enshitified product exists - > good alternative arises to meet demand - > good alternative becomes popular - > good alternative either becomes enshitified to maximize profits or is purchased by owner of original enshitified product.

The capitalist way.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

the circle of online life

Get used to it. Nothing lasts forever.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 22 hours ago

constructs like companies and software come and go but the individuals, the movement that strives for freedom stays the same

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (11 children)

What happened to proton?

[–] firadin 129 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Their Swiss CEO decided that supporting an authoritarian American neo nazi regime was a good idea

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

There is that, but did anything happen to the service itself?

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago

And they decided that posting on Mastodon was bad so switched back to r*****.

[–] Olhonestjim 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How very neutral of him.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago

He's not Swiss, he's from Taiwan

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (8 children)

The creator is pro-Trump and they also recently stopped posting updates to Mastodon citing "they don't have the resources" for it, or something like that.

Correct me if I have missed something; I've got no skin in the game, I just see the drama a lot.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago

So weird these business guys get involved into political crap. It's gotta alienate one side or another, simply lose lose.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

This thread got removed where it listed all of the things reddit collects, but we shouldn't get complacent here either. We need to check our instances.

Some of the instances do this here. This is not a 100% haven. It’s great and waaaay better, but still, check into your instances, Lemmies.

[–] waterore 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I’m trying out 3 different browsers atm and I think I’ll just keep all 3 and cycle though or use at different privacy settings. I will miss Firefox and not having to think about my browser. Can’t wait to watch all 3 go to shit as well.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Librewolf seems exactly the same, but it breaks Lemmy for me. It's probably a setting I didn't know to turn off.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's likely the resist fingerprinting option. It breaks many websites or those that use bot checking thing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I'll try some testing around those features.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Don't hold out on us! Which browsers?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I've been trying the duckduckgo browser, I think I may stick with it. No idea what to do about email

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

I've started migrating from Proton to Mailbox.org. Mailbox supports IMAP, and they have a calendar as well. https://mailbox.org/en/

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The mozilla thing seems to be mostly bad PR, but yeah...

[–] 9point6 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They took out the clause in their policy about not selling user data.

It's pretty obvious what follows that

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/-8bTquKjzos That sums it up. The definition of what counts as "selling data" changed...

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cool cool, lumping "I love fascists, actually" together with "We're clarifying our legal positions"

[–] LittleRatInALittleHat 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

So why does a free and ethical software need a user data collection policy that we have to agree to?

Why do they suddenly need to start collecting our data?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago

I assume because either their legal department, or it sounds like maybe this new exec Varma, thought that the previous language opened them up to potential liability in some jurisdictions.

The brightline for me is when the terms actually become onerous. If you were an extreme privacy nerd you were already using a fork anyway, for the average user there's nothing in the terms that's threatening yet IMO.

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