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Opinion: Brace yourselves: whatever crazy, awful things Trump may have done to date, it’s only going to get worse (www.theglobeandmail.com)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by [email protected] to c/politics

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If you think things are bad now, then, brace yourself: it is about to get a whole lot worse. If you are alarmed at the speed with which the Trump administration has set about dismantling every institution of American government and every pillar of the international order, you must understand that this is not just the initial burst of activity, the “shock and awe” phase after which things will settle down: if anything, the pace will continue to accelerate.

The world has never before been faced with such a threat. The United States has handed the nuclear codes to a madman, a criminal, a would-be dictator and a moron, all in the same person. Whatever the purpose to which he directs these powers – to impress his dictator friends, to further enrich himself and his cronies, to seize absolute power or just to watch the world burn – we must hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Our senators, representatives, and judges who aren't MAGA idiots did take an oath to serve our country and defend the rule of law, right? The fact that Trump is in office illegally (he's a convicted felon, remember) and he and Musk are doing highly illegal, unconstitutional things means you have the duty to gather up an armed force, march into the White House, and forcefully eject Trump, Musk, Vance, and any other MAGA moron, and put the actual victor of the 2024 election after you throw away all of the invalid votes for Trump in Trump's place (Harris).

MAGA idiots are going to lose their shit, yes, but let them. Arrest them, educate them, pacify them, make them understand that this is following the rule of law for the USA. This all has to end. Now. We can't wait for citizens to protest or especially not for a vote that probably won't count or may not even come if Trump gets his way.

Do your fucking duty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Like we didn't know. This was just the beginning! RIP for you........

[–] wowwoweowza 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Speaker of the House Mike Johnson is already distancing himself. The wheels of government are going to shut Trump down. He doesn’t have that much power.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

...they said, hopefully.

[–] wowwoweowza 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yes — hopefully

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Hopefully the house is not found to be impeding in making great again.... Be a shame if something where to happen to it.

[–] Machinist 1 points 4 hours ago

Mike Johnson is way scarier than Trump. He's a true believer, total hypocrite, and smart. His ideal society would be similar to The Handmaid's Tale and he will pursue that agenda and believe he's righteous when they build camps and dig trenches for the bodies.

Mike Johnson scares the fuck out of me. Watch him.

[–] RufusFirefly 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

One thing that concerns me that not many people have talked about is what's going to happen to the US dollar as the world's reserve currency? More and more countries want nothing to do with us and while the US dollar has a huge edge over any other currency, the US becoming a pariah is probably going to impact that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

I've wondered about this too.

The USA government has enormous debt, which grows every year due to an enormous deficit. But historically people have been relatively comfortable with just letting that continue to grow, because it is balanced by economic growth and stability (roughly speaking).

But now that the government is somewhat unstable... bad things might happen to the currency. The debt will continue to rise, but the productivity and stability that underpin it are eroding. It may collapse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

The RMB yuan is used in international trade by only eight countries, yet the Chinese economy is not going down the shitter. Has anyone credible tried to quantify the effect of the USD no longer being used as a reserve currency or in international trade?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago

It's fine dude, Trump tweeted threats against any country that tried to get off the USD has the global reserve currency so therefore it definitely won't happen. Or something.

[–] Freefall 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, you can read about it in the project 2025 page online....we know what is coming....we have for a few years...

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

For those who want to watch as the progress bar of doom slowly progresses...

https://www.project2025.observer/

[–] JacksonLamb 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for posting this link. I had not read through Project 2025 before.

Is it just me or is the US heading into an economic recession? That thing reads like they are trying to destroy social cohesion, the environment, and probably the economy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That thing reads like they are trying to destroy social cohesion, the environment, and probably the economy.

It sure does. Almost like he was an asset of an adversarial foreign government.

Is it just me or is the US heading into an economic recession?

Everyone but Trump, 77million magas, and Musk thinks so too.

[–] JacksonLamb 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Presumably whoever controls Musk wants it. Money has no countey, and the oligarchs are disaster capitalists, they profit from these kinds of events.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Not to be overly flippant, but it's very clearly Russia, IMO. We don't even need to wade into the current "Krasnov" discussion or talk about Trump on the Ukraine war to see it.

2021 article

The report, drafted by the CIA, the FBI, and several other agencies, was released in unclassified form on Tuesday, but it was presented in classified form on Jan. 7. In other words, it was compiled, written, and edited during Trump’s administration. It destroys his lies about the election, and it exposes him as a Russian asset.

Miraculously the report is still up: https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/ICA-declass-16MAR21.pdf

Ice Cube had it worked out in 2017 though. 😁

[–] JacksonLamb 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Love the Ice Cube quote.

Like I said, money has no country.

Russia itself is ruled by oligarchs for oligarchs.

They've clearly made common cause with oligarchs from elsewhere.

Sure, Trump is clearly being controlled by Putin to some degree but this isn't about national interests. That's too narrow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Ohh up to 36% now. Time for the next bag of popcorn.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Ok evil aside people really need to commend them on their execution. This is a damn successful destruction of democracy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

The design of that page makes it a bit too satisfying watching the tracker go up. Like watching an xp bar in a mmo bar go up or something. I'm almost rooting for it despite despising everything it stands for...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

The "good" news is it's been stuck at 36% for a few days. But yeah, I see what you mean and had a similar thought.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If Dems were smart, and assuming we have a fair election next year, they'd have their own "Project 2027" in the works right now.

Of course, no one would believe them because they'll walk half of it back before they lose power again, but it would at least show they're adapting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

What we need is a manifesto for Rollback 2016. Any executive order from Trump? Invalid. Any appointment? Rescinded and Trump, Vance and any Trump appointee is removed from office and barred from any public office for life. Any corporation or billionaire that supported Project 2025 is guilty of treason and will have their assets expropriated as compensation. All legislation passed under Trump is summarily repealed. All regulatory decisions made by Trump appointees, likewise. Networks and sites that have repeated foreign propaganda will be sut down and their executives barred from ever running another public corportation and from holding public office. Tax windfalls for the rich from Trump's cuts will be reclaimed.

The Democrats won't do it. Someone will have to.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Dems were smart they wouldn't have fucked Bernie in 2016

[–] JacksonLamb 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think that is definitely the point where the US was at a crossroads.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

For me it’s Al Gore losing that was definitely a start of some kind of fall. I know people point to Reagan often, but for me it’s Bush winning and starting all those wars.

[–] JacksonLamb 4 points 6 hours ago

That's a very good point. I think you're right.

That was when the US moved from covertly to openly breaking international human rights laws, introduced indefinite detention without trial, legally authorised itself to invade Europe, curtailed civil liberties, and rolled out a multi-national network of surveillance of its own citizens.

It also undercut rational reactions to climate change and normalized working-class right wing pride in having a president who sounds stupid to educated people. All of these things are arguably the groundwork for what they have now.

[–] davepleasebehave 24 points 1 day ago

people were literally going back in time to try to assassinate him before the election. that should give us an indication of how bad it is going to get.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump is going to get worse until he's stopped. That has always been the case.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Iowa passed a law changing their state's interpretation of the Civil Rights Act to be one that excludes Gender Identity, they claimed they were doing it in order to protect women. This marks the first time that a group was removed from a protected status.

Chaos and Anarchy will break out in the US soon, the bad kind though.

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