I still use firefox despite their questionable leadership, for one major reason: it prevents Google from setting whatever web standards they want. Sites that aren't standards compliant will usually still work in Chromium-based browsers, but they will break in Firefox, and then I can report the bugs.
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Starting yesterday unfortunately Chrome and not Firefox. I just need a working web browser and haven't had the time to figure out what is wrong with my Firefox installation. I have no clue why but after updating to firefox 135 it eats up all my RAM (20GB+) and uses a significant amount of CPU while idle with only the process monitor tab open. Attempting to browse is unreasonably slow. Refreshing Firefox did nothing, despite now having a Firefox installation which isn't logged into anything and has no extensions. So I figured that if I'm going to deal with a browser not logged into anything it might as well be Chrome for a bit until I can figure out what the problem is since that's what all of the internet is designed to work with lately.
Firefox. And Thunderbird. And donate to Mozilla.
Don't really see the point in using a fork that, by the time you boil it down, just takes Firefox's work and then releases it later.
I want a Google and Apple alternative and I'd rather support it at the top of the chain.
Check articFox
Gnome browser, I’d use ladybird but it’s not ready yet
Vivaldi. Edge for testing. FF dev edition is garbage. Glitchy, inconsistent, and blunt.
Not sure what you mean by Zen being a skin. Its a fork in the same way Librewolf and Waterfox are forks.
My issue is that while i am concerned about privacy, i’m more concerned with security patching. And none of these smaller browsers have the resources to turn around security fixes as quickly as firefox or chrome.
Firefox is the least of the concerns as long as we have the config options to disable anything deemed not privacy-respecting.
As of late using konqueror, it quite bs-less
I use firefox and am actively looking to change to something, potentially librewolf.
Edit: just installed librewolf. it's super clean and I'm glad I got it. replaced firefox almost instantly.
I like librewolf but for me video is so incredibly slow. Is anyone else having this issue?
Falkon, because it's fully integrated to KDE. Though I wish an actual Qt web browser running Gecko (or Servo, maybe one day) existed.
Still Firefox. Every time Mozilla does anything the entire privacy community goes insane. The terms of use they published seem entirely benign, and the only thing anyone can actually point to is the "direction being worrisome". Well, I'll get worried when they update the terms to be actually onerous. Everything even possibly annoying can be disabled, and it's still the only browser engine offering competition against Chrome ruling the web.
I don’t see how you could find the terms not concerning and their removal of stating they don’t sell data
What in the terms is concerning? They still have the bulk of the language in the old data privacy guarantee as well. This seems like they just got a more circumspect legal department who wants to cover their ass.
It's always been the case that Mozilla could decide to just make Firefox suck ass. Again, I'll be worried when they actually change the terms to something unacceptable.
It’s easy you just don’t worry too much about it. Is this a completely dumbass, reality avoidant coping strategy? You be the judge
Well, yes.
LibreWolf
I'm a very recent linux convert, coming from windows where I was using Vivaldi and I quite like it. But... are there reasons to switch to something else?
I think there is a generaal consensus to say it's not ARC
great point
Using a firefox derivative I dont think is a good option as it will always be behind on security updates.... I guess I am going to wait until the Orion Beta / software comes to Linux which was announced recently. Orion is a WebKit based browser that is on iphone / mac
I moved to LibreWolf back when Mozilla announced AI features
I appreciate its privacy-focused approach
Zen Browser I love it :)
Everything is just a skin of either Chrome or Firefox. Until recently, all browser on iPhone were a skin of Safari. Ladybird is the exception.
Gnome browser and Konqueror are WebKit based like safari is
Librewolf & waterfox are fantastic. Zen is interesting but it takes some work if you are used to firefox/Librewolf. Ladybird isn't out yet 🫠
Firefox. Google removed a valuable addon from their store without justifiable reason and kept it removed because there's not sufficient backlash.
The addon is AdNauseam. It's an improvement on uBlock Origin that clicks ads in addition to hiding them.
Firefox. Read the new statements on their website and the Full diff of the pull request. Not concerned at all.
Edit: pumped for ladybird, but its gonna be a few years until that is finished
Same. I'm not worried, just confused by the new language. It seems unnecessary, but I could end up being flat wrong.
I wish Mozilla would refocus on improving Firefox instead of the AI nonsense they've pursued lately. They havent been perfect, but if i'm going to give any faceless entity the benefit of the doubt, it's Mozilla.
That said, i want the forks to thrive. Librewolf is pretty good. I might check out Pale Moon again to see what has(n't) changed.
Waterfox is also good from what i remember. I used a build of it with KDE global menu support on OpenSuse for years, and i was happy with it the whole time.
RIP TenFourFox. Hopefully a new fork will emerge for powerpc and other retro computers
I read the new language to mean: they are going to record your input streams and feed them to AI/LLM - thereby recording your previously private info that they used to discard and protect. Up to you, I use Chrome because it integrates well with the gmail account I've used for 25+ years and I appreciate the "login anywhere and get your same setup" functionality, as well as the ability to nuke remote login sessions.
You can login with firefox and have the same setup anywhere as well. it's really convenient to share tabs between mobile and workstation
Been using zen for a few days with ublock, no issues so far but I might go back to librewolf soon even though it feels less modern. It just feels safer, idk tbh
Firefox with Arkenfox. I'm not going to help the Chromium monopoly. The changes suck, but oh the hell well.
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