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Not sure what you mean by Zen being a skin. Its a fork in the same way Librewolf and Waterfox are forks.
My issue is that while i am concerned about privacy, i’m more concerned with security patching. And none of these smaller browsers have the resources to turn around security fixes as quickly as firefox or chrome.
Firefox is the least of the concerns as long as we have the config options to disable anything deemed not privacy-respecting.
Falkon, because it's fully integrated to KDE. Though I wish an actual Qt web browser running Gecko (or Servo, maybe one day) existed.
I use firefox and am actively looking to change to something, potentially librewolf.
Edit: just installed librewolf. it's super clean and I'm glad I got it. replaced firefox almost instantly.
I like librewolf but for me video is so incredibly slow. Is anyone else having this issue?
I'm a very recent linux convert, coming from windows where I was using Vivaldi and I quite like it. But... are there reasons to switch to something else?
Using a firefox derivative I dont think is a good option as it will always be behind on security updates.... I guess I am going to wait until the Orion Beta / software comes to Linux which was announced recently. Orion is a WebKit based browser that is on iphone / mac
LibreWolf
Still Firefox. Every time Mozilla does anything the entire privacy community goes insane. The terms of use they published seem entirely benign, and the only thing anyone can actually point to is the "direction being worrisome". Well, I'll get worried when they update the terms to be actually onerous. Everything even possibly annoying can be disabled, and it's still the only browser engine offering competition against Chrome ruling the web.
I don’t see how you could find the terms not concerning and their removal of stating they don’t sell data
What in the terms is concerning? They still have the bulk of the language in the old data privacy guarantee as well. This seems like they just got a more circumspect legal department who wants to cover their ass.
It's always been the case that Mozilla could decide to just make Firefox suck ass. Again, I'll be worried when they actually change the terms to something unacceptable.
It’s easy you just don’t worry too much about it. Is this a completely dumbass, reality avoidant coping strategy? You be the judge
Well, yes.
I think there is a generaal consensus to say it's not ARC
great point
Everything is just a skin of either Chrome or Firefox. Until recently, all browser on iPhone were a skin of Safari. Ladybird is the exception.
I moved to LibreWolf back when Mozilla announced AI features
I appreciate its privacy-focused approach
Zen Browser I love it :)
Librewolf & waterfox are fantastic. Zen is interesting but it takes some work if you are used to firefox/Librewolf. Ladybird isn't out yet 🫠
Firefox. Google removed a valuable addon from their store without justifiable reason and kept it removed because there's not sufficient backlash.
The addon is AdNauseam. It's an improvement on uBlock Origin that clicks ads in addition to hiding them.
Been using zen for a few days with ublock, no issues so far but I might go back to librewolf soon even though it feels less modern. It just feels safer, idk tbh
Firefox. Read the new statements on their website and the Full diff of the pull request. Not concerned at all.
Edit: pumped for ladybird, but its gonna be a few years until that is finished
Same. I'm not worried, just confused by the new language. It seems unnecessary, but I could end up being flat wrong.
I wish Mozilla would refocus on improving Firefox instead of the AI nonsense they've pursued lately. They havent been perfect, but if i'm going to give any faceless entity the benefit of the doubt, it's Mozilla.
That said, i want the forks to thrive. Librewolf is pretty good. I might check out Pale Moon again to see what has(n't) changed.
Waterfox is also good from what i remember. I used a build of it with KDE global menu support on OpenSuse for years, and i was happy with it the whole time.
RIP TenFourFox. Hopefully a new fork will emerge for powerpc and other retro computers
I read the new language to mean: they are going to record your input streams and feed them to AI/LLM - thereby recording your previously private info that they used to discard and protect. Up to you, I use Chrome because it integrates well with the gmail account I've used for 25+ years and I appreciate the "login anywhere and get your same setup" functionality, as well as the ability to nuke remote login sessions.
You can login with firefox and have the same setup anywhere as well. it's really convenient to share tabs between mobile and workstation
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