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While James Ritts, the district attorney of Ontario County, New York, referred to Nordquist's death as "beyond depraved," investigators have since suggested that it likely was not a hate crime.
Oh come the fuck on. He was tortured and sexually assaulted for a month.
It's about motive.
Officials then revealed in the statement, obtained Monday by USA TODAY, that the relationship between the suspects and Nordquist suggests it was not a hate crime.
Nordquist and those suspected in his death were known to each other, and all identified as LGBTQ+, authorities said. At least one of the suspects lived with Nordquist before his death, the statement added.
A "hate crime" by most definitions is motivated purely by a prejudice against someone because of their race/gender/sexuality. If the culprits were just doing this because they're psychotic, it wouldn't be pursued as a "hate crime".
"We are still in the early stages of this investigation," according to a statement. "We urge the community not to speculate into the motive behind the murder as we work to find justice for Sam."
It sounds like it's still possible it'll be tried as a hate crime, but the revelation that the culprits were known to the victim and also identified as LGBTQ+ means there's likely more to the motive.
LGB drop the T people hate trans people . A cis gay person can totally commit a hate crime against a transgender person.
In theory sure. Is it statistically likely?
Yes? That’s like saying Black people cant be racist against other ethnic groups because they are both minorities (in USA at least).
I didn't say anyone "can't" anything, I'm asking for data. I want to know the statistical likelihood of this crime being hate- motivated, seeing as we may never know for sure if it is or not.
Oh ok, i thought you were asking a rhetorical questionquestion.
Naaahh, they just really cared for him, that's why they kept him alive for so long!
I'm seriously assuming that something this is is the excuse they'll come up with
Yeah but that doesn't necessarily mean it was a hate crime.
The first 5 people arrested were reportedly part of the LGBTQI+ community.
Well that fucking sucks. :/
They can be very exclusive. I've seen first hand many gay men absolutely hate on people in the trans community. In my experience if you don't fit into one of their pre-assigned roles then you aren't welcome. Also, those of us that don't make our sexuality a primary part of our personality are often dismissed as 'others'.
Tribalism comes in many forms.
4 out of 7 of those arrested so far have been reported to be women.
My experience as a gay trans dude has been that cis gay men are about as exclusive and transphobic as any other cis segment of the community ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Like the highly niche, and still very real, group of "Super gays" that were born via C-section so they have never touched a vagina. There will always be people who want to take purity tests to an extreme.
I think there's still one that deserves punishment. Didn't act in violence, but acted as bait... Unless that was one of the new ones, bet they were assistants and the bait is still wandering free. Throw them into solitary and leave them until their term is up. I'm not trans, but I don't need to be to see I don't want people that are willing to do what they did, just running around society. Who the hell is next? They already went after a trans person that wasn't harming anyone. Maybe they go after nuns next because they don't like their vow to god... Idk just saying.
this one gave me the creeps