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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 13 points 16 hours ago (8 children)

Anyone who has ridden in rain and adverse weather would know one reason cars are more popular.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I'm disabled in a way that means I can't use one, but can use a car, which kinda sucks.

Fortunately bike infrastructure usually helps me in my chair, so I'm all in favor of wider bike adoption.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t know your limitations, but you’d be surprised at the number of ways cycling can be made accessible.

For example, there are handbikes that attach to a wheelchair. As with all assistive tech it depends on your specific situation what is possible.

[–] Cort 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I've frequently seen a couple of people with recumbent hand bikes on one of the popular trails near me. They're decently fast with the reduced air resistance, but road crossings are a bit of a hassle when you aren't tall enough to be seen by an f450

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (7 children)

My city has extreme height changes on almost every road -- you'd have to be a seriously beefy rider to commute with a bike

[–] Benaaasaaas 3 points 11 hours ago

Pedal assist bikes exist, source am heavy ass bike commuter that has to go uphill to work.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Welcome to the Netherlands. If there's anything that fills me with pride it's our cycling culture. Most people have a car too, but I don't, and I do everything by bike and public transport.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

I cycled from Bruges to Amsterdam this summer and honestly it was an amazing holiday. Few days with headwind made us wish we had eBikes but the infrastructure was amazing. We basically could cycle on bike roads for 90%+ of the distance and felt very safe doing so. We loved especially Zealand landscape, food and small roads passing through the fields.

I think few countries would have made the holiday so pleasuring and chill, and obviously we encountered just so many people going on with their daily life even between cities with their bikes (I am assuming 20+ km rides). I have noticed that with ebikes also elder people had complete freedom to use bikes as they wished.

I really hope the dutch model is followed by more cities or countries.

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[–] LordCrom 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Make no problem with bikes in Florida, when you arrive you are so drenched in sweat you are no longer presentable and stink to high heaven.

Biking to work if you have an office job is out of the question.

Biking to my gym or KungFu school.... Perfect.

Just need the right tool for the right job.

[–] Benaaasaaas 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

In europe most modern offices have showers is this just not a thing around you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

offices in cities frequently do. maybe larger complexes in suburbs do, but yeah, it's not universal, and it can frequently be tied in with fees associated with a fitness center, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

With the average commute to work in the US being 16 mi one way, The average speed of riding a bicycle in the city being 15 mph, that makes the average commute to work just over an hour long (over 2x the 27 minutes it takes in a car). If you work in a job that requires you to be presentable, then you need to add another 15 minutes to take a quick shower and change (if your workplace even has such facilities).

Obviously, this changes with e-bikes, but there's not really a practical difference between most modern e-bikes and an electric moped.

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[–] Soup 138 points 1 day ago (32 children)

Don’t forget that maintenance is super cheap AND most people, with only the most basic tools, can do the work in their living room or even just on a sidewalk. And if I don’t get it right and the brakes don’t work perfectly I probably won’t fuckin’ die.

Hi, car owner here. I do all the work myself and it requires a fair bit of knowledge, expensive tools, space, and a childhood where I was never told I couldn’t do that work if I was thoughtful about it. That’s a high fuckin’ bar and requires a whole lot of privilege-oh there it is, too many people with privilege like to shit on those without and most of North America has dogshit for public transit or bike infrastructure and the “freedom of movement” with a car is all there but heavily artificial. Thanks auto industry and their lobbyists.

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[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds 77 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Bikes were and still are a revolutionary technology. There's a reason suffragettes were often associated with bicycles.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 18 hours ago (16 children)

Someone can probably do the math, but i have a hunch that humans are technically not very fuel efficient if you look at calories burned pr the total mass being moved along.

But whatever it is biking is awesome, but being technically correct is even better.

[–] TheButter_ItSeeps 13 points 18 hours ago

I feel like 'total mass being moved' is irrelevent if most of that mass is useless (car motor/metal frame/plastic/etc).

Even if a car motor was more efficient per kg, most of the work is wasted on moving the actual car itself, regardless of the passengers & cargo.

Bikes clearly use less energy to displace 'useful mass' than a car, so they are more efficient in that sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

something like 50-80 % of the energy we use (it depends on how active you are,) is used for just sustaining life (AKA your base metabolic rate.)

humans convert a bit less than 50% of the food-energy into a form we actually use- glucose. even though bicycles themselves are fairly efficient with the power put into them, humans themselves are not all that efficient. as for most effecient animals, that would probably be something like an albatross, which extracts energy from the wind to fly. (Specifically using a technique known as ridge lift. in the R/C world, the speed record is 548mph or so- set by a glider using similar techniques, and albatrosses can cross entire oceans.)

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 23 hours ago (16 children)

Rain, ice and severe cold are a removed. I like bicycles, but driving to work in a heated car looking at that poor cyclist riding somewhere at 6 in the morning at -6°C, sorry, no, I'm gonna go with a car.

[–] NikkiDimes 43 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

are a removed.

Bro, it might be time to leave .ml lol

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 22 hours ago (8 children)

I disagree cycling in winter is nice. Just get some warm clothes and good tyres. A car is also really expensive to own in the city. Why pay for a car and parking when the alternative is almost free and arguably more fun.

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