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Vance’s attack on European democracy in Munich, perversely twisting the language of democracy itself should leave no doubt whatsoever that the aim of this administration is to destroy the EU and its liberal democracies," said Nathalie Tocci, director of Istituto Affari Internazionali think tank.

Responding to Vance's speech, German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius told the conference: "If I understood him correctly he is comparing parts of Europe with authoritarian regimes. This is not acceptable."

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

What I worry about is the threat from within, the retreat of Europe from some its most fundamental values, values shared with the United States of America," Vance said.

Absurd, coming from them, right now, while at home they're well into dismantling their own institutions.

Whatever their intention, this whole ordeal feels like from Russia's playbook of spreading confusion and dissonance to weaken EU democracies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

That's coming from the guy whos team banned AP reporters, because they would not use their made up name for the Gulf of Mexico.

Get fucked with an anchor.

[–] sircac 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I already said it somewhere else:

I think this people have long already disqualified their ability to speech anything worth of coherent value, why keep listening them or take note of their words? They do not follow the rules of that game, is not possible to play on the same terms so that battleground is a distraction at best, a cancer at worst.

Don’t feed the troll, don’t support the bully.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The problem here is that they're in power now, representing and governing a country.

You can't not invite them to the security conference when the US is, and more significantly was, a part of and player in international security.

[–] sircac 1 points 1 hour ago

I agree, they are recognised agents, so they should be invited, and I would turn on the microphone for them and wait patiently until they finished their speech within their rightful time, we play according to the rules, but then I would continue as if those minutes never existed, as a journalist I would provide the report of the real value of those irrelevant words and as a consumer I would treat their speech as useless as a child’s play as an adult blabbering, not too much to do with it, why isolate their catchy fallacies and amplify them? They do not contribute constructively to a coherent debate but exploit the system weaknesses. I believe that it starts in our individual choices.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Why do the media have to parrot every fart that comes out of such a talking arse?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

He wouldn't be, if nobody talks about him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

He'd still be in power as part of the government.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

But he couldn't abuse this power even more by spreading his vile bullshit abroad if nobody talked about him.

[–] krebssteven 36 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

He can go fuck his couch. How dare this opportunistic cretin to critizise europe for being very much aware of social engineering threats while he himself was profiteering of the hard to doubt interference of oligarchs and agent provocateurs to manufacture consent.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

He's coming for your couch. Tape the seams.

[–] HowRu68 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Have you heard this speech at this "infamous" Unsecurity Conference in Munich ? It hurts the ears and head, as it sounds like George Orwells " NewSpeak".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

There are some really funny lines in that Article

Vance says real threat for Europe is not from Russia or China

If he implies that he and the orange clown are a real threat right now he is certainly right.

"If you're running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing America can do for you," Vance said.

That's also really funny, because Republicans are in fear of their own voters for years, and try everything possible to make voting as hard as possible. From unregistering voters to gerrymandering, contesting absentee ballots or removing polling stations from poorer Areas, there is nothing they won't try to disenfranchise voters

https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Vance says real threat for Europe is not from Russia or China

If he implies that he and the orange clown are a real threat right now he is certainly right.

From the summary line I was wondering that too, but in the article, it's pretty clear that he's talking only about EU internals/citizens.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Ban him from Schengen until he learns basic manners

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

I was going to say the same!