Screw Proton and their oligarch fellating CEO.
this post was submitted on 08 Feb 2025
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This right here, so glad I dodged that bullet.
I'm with you, but what's a equivalent service?
Posteo.de if you don't need a custom domain, Mailbox.org if you do.
For cloud storage it should be a different service anyways, it's best not to combine things with the same company. So for example Tresorit for storage, Bitwarden for passwords, Mullvad for a VPN, etc..
Great advice, do not put all your eggs in one basket. Makes it easier to jump ship when it's only one service.
+1 to this. Tresorit and Mullvad are both exceptional
mailbox.org isn't encrypted like Proton mail is. (Of course, Proton could steal your decryption password, but still)
Proton is only encrypted between proton users. Proton mail to/from gmail or outlook is plain text, unless the recipient sets up PGP, and you can do E2EE with PGP over any host.
All mail is typically encrypted in transit with smtps, and Proton mail is encrypted at rest. But that's true, it's not e2ee, so I guess they could just scrape it all as it comes in, if they're not doing so already.
Both companies are based in Europe though so I figure US spying laws don't apply?
I just want to say,what is up with people down voting a perfectly innocuous comment? You got two down votes as of this writing.
I left to Tuta (E2EE and German based) and switched from Simple Login to Addy. Took less than an hour and it’s been smooth sailing.
Addy user here! Been using it for years now and just last week, I saw an uptick in one of my aliases. Turned it off with a single toggle and no more spam.
The ability to self-host is awesome if I ever get to that stage. But right now, I want to keep giving them money.
For what? I'm using Nextcloud self hosted on unraid and exposed via Nginx Proxy Manager for external access for storage.
Works fine.
I have not upgraded to the 2025 HA yet because of the backup drama of the first release. Probably will this weekend now that the major issues were addressed.
Unrelated to this topic but also zigbee2mqtt v2 seems to be a nightmare too I'm not ready to deal with that "upgrade"
What did I miss? I've seen comments like this a couple times and I'm not entirely sure what happened.
Well, that's... less than ideal. I use a couple of their services, it was a royal pain in the ass to get all my email stuff moved over to Proton in the first place.
I'll have to keep an eye on what they're doing, I'll take this as a warning sign. I'm moving most of my stuff to self host anyway, with the exception of email.
Yeah, I love the backup features they've bought in. The ability to restore specific parts of Home Assistant is really great
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I bet if you make it, some people will love it.
it seems much more niche than some other providers, but that's one of the great things about HA - lots of tinkerers use it, and some are bound to use Proton Drive.
Maybe this isn’t a robust strategy, but I run HA in Proxmox and have nightly snapshots of that VM. Anytime I need to restore I just revert to the appropriate snapshot
That, in combination with an offsite backup of some kind (such as the Google Drive backup) is a great strategy
Good idea. I should back these up to Tresorit from time to time as well. Thanks!