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‘Take that, Dearborn’: Muslim Americans scapegoated for Trump’s Gaza 'takeover’ plan (www.middleeasteye.net)

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Trump announced on Tuesday the US could "take over" the Gaza Strip and transform it into a premier tourist destination, or the "Riviera of the Middle East" - but without Palestinians.

On social media, many debated the plan, with large swathes of people denouncing it as "ethnic cleansing". Others immediately pointed out the US's long history of "settler colonialism" and "imperialism".

In the US, many liberal commentators, especially supporters of the Democratic Party, said Trump was acting precisely as they had warned ahead of presidential elections in November 2024. They blamed his Gaza takeover plan on Muslims for voting for him instead of Kamala Harris.

Voters in Michigan's Dearborn, the largest majority Arab-American city in the United States, overwhelmingly supported Trump in a clear protest against the Biden administration's handling of Israel's war on Gaza.

In reality, Trump won every swing state in the US election, and had he lost Michigan, Harris still would not have come close to competing in the electoral college.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Dems will blame everyone but themselves. The people crave progressive, uplifting politics. Dems continue a center-right march into nothingness.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

a center-right march

I think the technical term for that is goose-step

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The first people to blame are Trump voters. The percent of Trump voters who were whatever ethnicity, is pretty much the percent of that blame that they deserve. Fixating on Arab voters only - whether Trump, Harris, Stein, De la Cruz, whatever - is sick. Same principle goes for Dem voters - the second group to blame - who actively supported a genocidal candidate, at the expense of third party candidates who weren't gearing up for mass murder, or throwing the election to a mass murderer, or whatever BS Harris was up to.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This comment section sure is spicy

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yep. This instance doesn't put up with the blue maga bullshit. It's refreshing.

[–] Doomsider 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Anything to do with .ml is. Trust me, they are just rude brigadiers who point fingers with no answers.

While I do agree with a lot of what they say they can't take any criticism at all. Their mods will stand by when their members abuse people and heavily censor when it is apparent their arguments are failing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

first democrats dgaf about a genocide and derided people voting their conscience about it, calling them single issue voters; now their loved ones have to endure the inevitable next stage of a human rights violating cycle of history repeating itself and the democrats are once again denigrating them for it.

i took to calling democrats, blue maga, as a way to single out the hard core adherence to the inhumane red vs blue team tribalism that typifies american politics, but they're now literally espousing the same "fuck your feelings" mantra that exemplified trump's maga; they've TRULY become blue maga in every sense of the words and i suspect they'll be the ones in charge of the next election.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you're missing the n in dngaf at the top of your comment?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

My version is "don't give a fuck" and now I wonder if "don't" is technically 2 words. Lol

[–] Zahille7 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It technically is. It's a contraction of "do" and "not"

[+] HessiaNerd -10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They voted their conscience? So they wanted ethnic cleansing? That is what they voted for. There was never any doubt what Trump stood for, what he was going to do.

Can you honestly blame people for being frustrated that's this super hardline approach is what we got when people claimed to want something else then voted against their interests?

Same with supporting the working class. With wanting to end corruption. All these things people claimed they cared about then turned around and voted in Trump. It's maddening.

Go shove your blue maga bullshit. It is absolutely ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You're right. Fuck saying blue maga. You're just a straight up nazi. You supported a genocide. And now that you've had power stripped from you BECAUSE YOU SUPPORTED A GENOCIDE you're doing what nazis always do. Pretend anything inconvenient to them never existed. So now you turn around with characteristic smirking bad faith and say that people who didn't vote for your modern day Hitler were voting for ethnic cleansing. I say we're here because punching nazis wasn't good enough. "super hardline approach" to voting against the person murdering their families. Holy shit fuck you. Fucking nazis.

[–] HessiaNerd -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is a guy in power right now giving Nazi salutes, stripping lifesaving aid from tens of millions of people, advocating for ethnic cleansing, and a whole lot more. I voted against that and I'm the Nazi? Fuck you.

I am not pretending Democrats weren't peices of shit. I have no delusions about that. I am operating under the reality that Americans, the people in Gaza, and most of the world, is in a much worse situation right now because you decided to take a moral stand against the person more likely to help, to be influenced by protests.

Are you protesting what is happening right now? I know a lot of vulnerable people can't.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I have no delusions about that.

You voted for a nazi. You voted for a genocide. You're pretending you didn't.

You ARE a nazi. Fuck you.

I am operating under the reality that Americans, the people in Gaza, and most of the world, is in a much worse situation right now because you decided to take a moral stand against the person more likely to help

The people in Gaza are in a worse position now than they were before the ceasefire?

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert.

You look like a nazi. You speak like a nazi. You act like a nazi.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Voting for Harris or for Trump was a vote for ethnic cleansing. You don't get to stand on a high-horse and pretend you didn't vote for the same administration that helped accelerate the ongoing genocide of Palestinians, that was your choice. It isn't "super hardline" to oppose genocide, especially not if it is the only way to stop the genocide (outside of Revolution, which is necessary regardless).

Pretending that Leftists voted for Trump, rather than Stein or Claudia De La Crúz, is just blinding yourself to reality. Harris was never owed votes, she has always stood against the Working Class. Trump is awful, and so is Biden, and so would Harris be.

When you have to intentionally distort reality to prove a point, like pretending third party voters and non-voters actually were Trump voters, you epitomize Blue MAGA.

[–] HessiaNerd -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not on any high horse. I'm down here covered in filth. I am not proud to have voted for Kamala, but I'm frustrated that she lost. I'd much rather be getting lectured at that she isn't doing enough, and no one be talking about USAID, and trans people, women, etc all fearing for their future.

Life is complicated. We have to tell ourselves stories to get through it. I viewed voting like a trolly problem. I chose Kamala because I viewed it as the least harm I could do in that situation. You did what I view as refusing to pull the lever. Both situations result in harm. I am not ok with that harm either way, and I recognize my culpability. Do you recognize yours?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You pulled a lever Leftists correctly told you wasn't going to work. Your head is in the sand, more than anything, regularly trying to vote for the lesser evil is the reason why we are in this mess to begin with. You can organize like Leftists have been telling you, and that's the only way to actually do anything. Voting is less than the bare minimum to get any change.

[–] HessiaNerd 0 points 3 weeks ago

I sincerely hope all this organizing you are clearing doing is going to help. I will pitch in as I can, truly. You can insult me as much as you want, and if you are successful, I will be the first to admit I was wrong. However, from where I am standing we are much more worse off. Maybe that is what you want. It is clear to me, that a lot more people are going to die and even more are going to suffer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

You're so close at seeing how propaganda can lead swathes of people like the workers to vote against their own interests without questioning why; but won't take the next step to question if propaganda tells you our only "reasonable" choices were between a person actively enabling a genocide and another person who wanted to commit a genocide.