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Donald Trump has said that Palestinians have “no alternative” but to leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas, in effect endorsing ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries.

Speaking as he prepared to host Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, on Tuesday, Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt – something both countries have firmly rejected.

Trump claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”, telling reporters: “I would think that they would be thrilled.”

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[–] aseriesoftubes 170 points 6 days ago (125 children)

This is completely fucking shocking. I hope all the Uncommitted folks are proud of themselves.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 5 days ago (10 children)

EtHnIc ClEaNsInG iS bEtTeR tHaN gEnOcIdE.

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[–] [email protected] 146 points 5 days ago (19 children)
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[–] [email protected] 66 points 5 days ago (14 children)

In 1940, the Nazis' plan was to relocate all Jews to Madagascar.
Just 2 years later, they started exterminating them systematically.

[–] DarkFuture 16 points 5 days ago

Yup.

They went from passing oppressive laws against Jews to turning them to ash in a frighteningly short period of time.

Fascism is 100% here and our nation is asleep at the fucking wheel.

Never been more ashamed to be an American.

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[–] alexc 121 points 5 days ago (7 children)

History will not be kind to either Netanyahu, or the Biden/Trump presidencies.

This will mean fuck all the to Palestinians who became “displaced persons” just so the Israeli’s can have their own Lebensraum.

The rest of the world needs to get off its ass and ensure Gaza is rebuilt on Israel’s shekel for the Palestinians like a modern day Marshall plan. And ideally prosecute a couple of people for actively advancing genocide.

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[–] andros_rex 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So beyond fighting about what happened in 2024… What are you going to do about it?

Are you calling your senators? Representatives? Federal level? State level? Governor?

Even if you live in a red state, you can be annoying. Leave voicemails. Ask for call backs. Write letters. Blue state - better. Cmon, they’re spineless. Shout louder than everyone else.

Then look for local issues. Local manifestations of fascism that are small enough for you to do something about. Show up to city council and school board (there have been lots of efforts to overtake these smaller bodies too.) Community organizing for Palestine could also be community organizing for addressing attacks on the homeless, women’s autonomy, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 6 days ago (60 children)

I'm sure the Palestinians are grateful the Democrats didn't win.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 5 days ago (2 children)

But they didn't promise to stop it, so voting for fascism was the only alternative!

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[–] AA5B 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

If you have absolutely no empathy for fellow human beings, no sense of morality, no concern with topping off a holocaust with a cultural genocide, no concern with what anyone wants for themselves …… I guess that describes the orange guy

[–] DarkFuture 30 points 5 days ago (16 children)

I'd ask protest voters if they're feeling pretty stupid right now, but the truth is they never gave a flying fuck about Palestinians. They only cared about feeling morally superior.

Trash humans.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

shooting Palestinians

"Seems like you guys have no choice here but to leave"

[–] WrenFeathers 74 points 5 days ago (12 children)

So…. Are both sides still the same? Asking for a friend.

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[–] Matriks404 38 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Well, maybe Israelis should leave Palestinians country instead.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Americans making this about Trump vs Kamala is getting really really annoying. I mean, we get it, you are pissed off at each other. We've read the same arguments dozens of times already, and at this point it is getting extremely tired. It sucks the oxygen out of every conversation. Is this what the discourse is going to be around Palestine and Israel the next four years?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I don't think these people actually care about Palestinians, it's team sports. They care more about saying "I told ya so" than advocating for people who are suffering.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Wow it's almost like this was predictable. Good thing all those liberals who didn't vote for Harris could not have possibly known Trump would be even worse....

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 days ago (2 children)

In fairness, this is BS. A leaked Israeli paper from early 2024 stated that that IDF and the Israeli's government overall goal WAS to remove all people from Gaza. Once and for all, if they could get away with it. The fact they systematically destroyed whole towns and places of culture educates us and reinforces that this was the plan all along. Trump is an Israeli puppet, nothing changes there, but the removal of people and the destruction of Gaza was the Israeli plan all along. This was known.

It is THEIR land. Their home. Why should they be shipped anywhere? That is an outright crime.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 days ago (25 children)

Accelerationism has made things worse for everyone. Now we have a US president who has declared his intention to ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip of Palestinians. If you want things to get better then you have to act in a way that is useful to that end. That means voting for parties that are to the left of fascists and that have a chance of winning. In the US, that's the Democrats.

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[–] Bytemeister 57 points 5 days ago (104 children)

Hey at least the genocide will be over! Trump is so much better than Kamala on this!

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Wellllll technically those who voted against Kamala to stop israeli genocide got what they wanted. Israel no longer has to genocide Palestinians.

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[–] shiroininja 55 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I’m calling it, this era will be worse than the bush era when it comes to American atrocities.

What the fuuuck, the United States of America is going to own a part of the Gaza Strip. Are we restarting colonialism?!

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago

It's right to be angry. I don't have an answer. I think few people realize that most genocides are actually successful and forgotten.

[–] sozesoze 27 points 5 days ago (8 children)

The amount of hatred against phantom leftists that on the one hand lost the Dems the vote and on the other were too weak to have their demands considered is crazy.

No, these people didn't lose you the vote. They don't even exist in this ambivalent form. It was everyday citizens that heard Democrats push the same racist border talking points Trump spewed last election and went "Hm, if even the Dems say this is a problem, I'll vote the party that talked about how evil Migrants were for decades, the GOP". It's people tired of increasingly struggling to make ends meet and the Dems saying everything will stay the same, while Trump promised them change. We know that he just means destroying the last remnants of social security nets for poor people and everything that stands in the way for oligarchs making kaijulllian dollars. But people are stupid and desperate. Why can't the Democratic party be held to a higher standard than whatever this is?

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[–] Freefall 24 points 5 days ago (24 children)

Single-issue voters, when EVERYTHING was at stake, deserve all the hate they get, but are too stupid to understand. The worst kind of trumpers, ones that don't think they are.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago

Geez americans are stupid

[–] FlowVoid 35 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yes, I'm sure this would all be very sad for Palestinians but the important thing is that Genocide Joe learned his lesson.

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