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[–] werefreeatlast 1 points 35 minutes ago

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2069436850145993

50 States, 50 Protests, 1day

Feb 5 @ your downtown.

Pass the word!

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Literally never heard about this event before today.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Seems like an asshole/ego move to fork Lemmy rather than contribute to it when Lemmy is an ongoing project

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

It's an entirely different codebase. Lemmy is written in Rust, PieFed in Python. If you're a Python developer you're not going to randomly learn Rust to contribute to the huge existing codebase that is Lemmy, and even if you did you might have a different stance than the Lemmy developers calling for a fork.

Furthermore, it's not a zero sum game. The projects share content, and both benefit from the success of the other.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

It's not a fork.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Ignoring the fact piefed isn’t a lemmy fork.

Are you really going to argue that forking an existing project because you want to take it a different way is an asshole move?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Also ignoring the same fact.

I mean in a way they're not wrong. This open source fragmentation is an actual nightmare at this point...

Buuuuut considering who the lemmy devs are I will gladly move to Piefed when I can actually easily host my own instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Open source is all about fragmentation. It's a natural result of freedom.

Sure, if everybody pulled the same direction on the same project and successfully coordinated their cooperative effort while agreeing on everything and also having the perfect™ vision for the project, that would be great.

But that's just not gonna happen, for a million reasons. So instead, we get diversity, and people can use the software that fits them, and develop what they're interested in in the language of their choosing. Thank god.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Yes, it is generally good, but if we want a viable alternative to the sub-based AI platform, then we need more users, not more platforms.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I wouldn't be here if I had to use Lemmy. Its user experience doesn't appeal to me.

Piefed appeals to me, so I'm here. More good options will be reflected in more users.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

The platforms are federated and use the same protocol, it doesn’t matter

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Normally I'd agree, but the recent increase in popularity of Pixelfed among the TikTok crowd has shown me that it's possible for one fediverse platform to succeed where a competing one failed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Why did you assume it's a lemmy fork?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Anything to avoid those dirty commie tankies. Lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm fine with it whilst there are maintainers with the whole "transgenderism is bourgeoise decadence" stance going on. I've happily worked with MLs and MLMs, I'm not a fan of bigots who work backwards to fit their ideology to their prejudices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago* (last edited 15 minutes ago)

MLs = Marxist Leninists

MLMs = Multi Level Marketing (schemes)?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Piefed needs a cute mascot

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not wed to the logo, by any means

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

To be fair it depends what kind of pie it is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Not really, no.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 day ago (5 children)
[–] Iheartcheese 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Warl0k3 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Iheartcheese 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Warl0k3 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Iheartcheese 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Warl0k3 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
[–] Iheartcheese 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I... Didn't expect that to work

[–] Warl0k3 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I wouldn't have done it if you had. I hope you have a very nice day!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Damn, you did not hold back.

[–] Warl0k3 3 points 23 hours ago

They seemed nice so why not. Plus, it's funnier this way.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

I love this place.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Mainly because it's too popular, we need to diversify with mbin/piefed.

Also, because piefed has more features (we don't even have polls on lemmy yet, why?) and i think it's more beginner friendly.

That's just my opinion though, all of them are better than reddit eitherway.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

While that is a reasonable motivation, I'd be more worried about potential fracturing of the marketshare, preventing the critical mass to be reached for smaller ones, while keeping the bigger ones from reaching full potential.

The flame dying out for kbin comes to mind. Mastodon probably saw this and decided they need to up their game.

If we're talking about feature, wouldn't it be better to improve on the existing?

I'm definitely not an expert on this, but I find it concerning the massive closed players keep getting all the pies while preying on the players on the verse, waiting to see some weakness to prey on.

[–] JustAnotherKay 1 points 3 hours ago

Potential fracturing of the marketshare

I find it hard to imagine that'll be too much of an issue considering I'm seeing piefed and Mastodon comments in my Lemmy app right now. I don't care if someone is on a different site than I am as long as the content we make for each other gets seen by each other

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The flame dying out for kbin comes to mind.

That wasn't because of adoption, that was because the main dev ran into health issues. Or at least I was under the impression of that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Assuming what you said is true, this would highlight the fact that kbin was pretty much entirely ran by a single person. Otherwise, someone else would readily take over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think there are a lot of projects that have many contributors but only one person that has admin access to the repo, website, etc. I wouldn't necessarily say it meant there was a single person working on it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Let's not pretend that these projects are exempt from the real life obstacles. People have real life out there. They get sick, have family issues, change ideologies, you name it. Sometimes the sole maintainer goes missing out of the blue.

Yet some of these projects persevere despite challenges. Solus is a good example.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Mbin exists as a continuation of kbin. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, it’s being federated to Lemmy and most of us just see the Lemmy software as the open Reddit alternative. I’m still not quite sure what Piefed is like, I’ve pretty much never had to look past Lemmy and Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

I recommend giving it a spin if you have the time! It's pretty great :)

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