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After the Texans lost to the Chiefs in the divisional round of the playoffs, their head coach DeMeco Ryans and players from the team made comments about having to play against both the Chiefs and the officials.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

While I'm not exactly rooting for it, I do think if someone actually roughed mahomes it would probably stop some of the flags. There's no incentive to hold back if it's a flag either way.

[–] cowfodder 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'll root for it, especially with his tendency to slow down when running out of bounds in order to try to draw a flag. I bet if he got absolutely trucked enough times he'd cut that shit out.

[–] dhork 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

You're trying to win games, though, and purposely giving up 15 yards is not conducive to that.

What they really ought to do is reassess how QBs are protected. Make it clear that they lose special protections if they slide late, or slow down to create contact. And give the defender some leeway. I have seen fouls called when the defender was clearly aiming away from the head and the runner put his head in the way. Only from QBs though, looking to slide late to draw the foul.

AFAIK, the rulebook doesn't make a distinction between a QB or any other player once they are a runner, but we all know that hits to QBs are more likely to draw flags, because nobody wants to see the backup QB in a big game.

[–] njm1314 5 points 2 days ago

You're going to get the 15-yard penalty either way. Rocking the hell out of the quarterback on the other hand will absolutely help your team.

[–] FlashMobOfOne 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Respectfully, I disagree strongly.

I was at the game where Trent Green slid, took a hit, and the concussion was so bad it changed the entire trajectory of his career. Also happened to RG3, who got lit up a lot when opted to run the ball.

Dislike the slide rule, but it exists for a very good reason. Also, it benefits the QB of your team too.

I'd also argue that protecting QB's is good for football in general. No one wants to watch the Colt McCoys, or Curtis Painters, or Dan Orlovskys starting games.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

@dhork @cowfodder They used to have that. There was a 3 yard "imaginary halo" and you had to start your slide with at least three yards of separation for a penalty.

It might make sense to bring that back or at least make it a 5yrd vs. 15yrd if the QB slides late.

Same with the sideline. They should draw a second line 3 yards out of bounds and if you're hit in that line late it's a 5yrd penalty, outside of it 15yrds (and maybe an ejection).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

He also ran the fuck over Damar Hamlin for a TD so I wouldn't say he's exactly scared of taking a hit if it's the difference between winning and losing. Especially in the playoffs.

[–] chonglibloodsport 1 points 2 days ago

Run an exotic blitz to get your 350 lb nose tackle free and have him drive Mahomeboy into the turf, with or without the football!

[–] FlashMobOfOne 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The Chiefs are middle of the league in penalties accepted. Fun fact: The Bills, by the numbers, get more calls than KC does.

These coaches, and fans, need to get off social media. Payton lost because he got outcoached and the Chiefs are a better team, same with the Texans. He should be focusing on improving on special teams, who gave up a blocked field goal that clinched the game for KC. Houston should focus on their o-line, which gave up eight sacks to the Chiefs D-line and kicked Joe Mixon's ass the entire game.

This narrative of Chiefs bias is the algorithm keeping your eyes glued to nonsense so they can feed you more ads.

The Chiefs are just better than your team. That's it.

(Though it is ironic that a proven and punished cheater like Sean Payton is the one making these complaints after he paid his players to lay dirty hits.)

[–] batmaniam 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'll take four honest losses in a row over whatever crap the cheifs are doing now. Enjoy it I guess.

[–] FlashMobOfOne 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Your comment is entirely unreasonable, especially as concerns the Bills game, because they played a whole quarter of crappy football. That first quarter had far more to do with their loss than anything else, even if the officiating had been bad. (Which it wasn't.)

The Chiefs have not only won honestly, but they've done some pretty awesome things to pull out wins this season, like the last-second blocked field goal against Denver.

Awesome by definition.

[–] batmaniam 1 points 1 day ago

Cool. Enjoy.

[–] dhork 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if there Bills really get more calls than KC does. Having watched the Bills all season, though, I bet Josh Allen leads the league in begging for calls.

[–] FlashMobOfOne 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Statistically, they do. They were third in the league in penalties accepted this season.

Minnesota was first.

[–] dhork 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Ah, well that might just be an artifact of getting to play the Jets twice a year, it probably skews the numbers

Edit: Seriously, though, I wonder if anyone keeps track of RTP penalties separately ....

Edited edit: this site is interesting, it breaks it down by QB. Allen drew 7 more RTP calls, in 9 fewer games, than Mahomes....

https://www.nflpenalties.com/roughing-the-passer-by-qb.php?view=all

[–] FlashMobOfOne 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

True.

I just like that the narrative people are clinging to is directly contradicted by the numbers, and they sorta just ignore it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When have facts ever let anyone get distracted from a good pity party?

[–] FlashMobOfOne 0 points 2 days ago

Fair point.