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I was watching the RFK Jr questioning today and when Bernie was talking about healthcare and wages I felt he was the only one who gave a real damn. I also thought "Wow he's kinda old" so I asked my phone how old he actually was. Gemini however, wouldnt answer a simple, factual question about him. What the hell? (The answer is 83 years old btw, good luck america)

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[–] vala 39 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] Dozzi92 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Dunno if your typo was intentional or not, but all I see in this thread is that somehow a typo is a way to bypass whatever block they have on discussion related to political figures. Which is bonkers. The great minds at the Goog somehow missed a pretty obvious workaround.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Or you can ask it to respond in pirate English, bypasses a lot of blocks

[–] Hackworth 4 points 6 days ago

R3g3n3r47|ng w17h 1337 5P34k i5 7h3 n3w h0tn355.

Which feels poetic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

arrr my matee. Where be the nearest fine madens I've been seein' in this here advert? 🦜🏴‍☠️⚔️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

That's hysterical. LLMs typically know what you're talking about, so if you misspell, they can still figure out what you're trying to say.

Holy shit that's funny

[–] chiliedogg 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

What's the knowledge cutoff date for the model? Is that even a thing on Gemini? I've been pretty intentional about not using it.

Is it from before Musk became such an overt political figure? I genuinely don't know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

It calls Twitter X, so to answer the last question: no

[–] vala 1 points 5 days ago

Gemini doesn't really have a cutoff date.

[–] Jeeptrap 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Google has implemented restrictions on Gemini's ability to provide responses on political figures and election-related topics. This is primarily due to the potential for AI to generate biased or inaccurate information, especially in the sensitive and rapidly evolving landscape of politics. Here are some of the key reasons behind this decision:

  • Mitigating misinformation: Political discourse is often rife with misinformation and disinformation. AI models, like Gemini, learn from vast amounts of data, which can include biased or inaccurate information. By limiting responses on political figures, Google aims to reduce the risk of Gemini inadvertently spreading misinformation.
  • Avoiding bias: AI models can inherit biases present in their training data. This can lead to skewed or unfair representations of political figures and their viewpoints. Restricting responses in this area helps to minimize the potential for bias in Gemini's output.
  • Preventing manipulation: AI-generated content can be used to manipulate public opinion or influence elections. By limiting Gemini's involvement in political discussions, Google hopes to reduce the potential for its technology to be misused in this way.
  • Maintaining neutrality: Google aims to maintain a neutral stance on political matters. By restricting Gemini's responses on political figures, they can avoid the appearance of taking sides or endorsing particular candidates or ideologies. While these restrictions may limit Gemini's ability to provide information on political figures, they are in place to ensure responsible use of AI and to protect the integrity of political discourse.
[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This response seems strangely AI-y

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

It was written with Deepseek, so it's the good AI.

[–] damnedfurry 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This seems reasonable, honestly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

So American LLM's get to censor politics of their choosing but Chinese LLM's do not. Amazing

[–] LeeNeighoff 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

How about a more apt comparison to the type of stuff DeepSeek has gone viral for censoring?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Does not use the word concentration camp

Despite the injustices they faced many Japanese sought to demonstrate their loyalty to the Unites States

Look at my amazing propaganda

My sides

[–] LeeNeighoff 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I didn't say it was perfect or even unbiased, just that it's better than denying something happened or refusing to talk about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I prefer honest censorship over covert brainwashing propaganda.

[–] LeeNeighoff 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

To each their own, I suppose. I prefer having the info generally available, so I can find various accounts of an event and form my own opinions. If the information is actively suppressed, it's a lot more difficult to find out what really happened than if the info is available but some sources are (heavily) biased.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

No it is worse because you believe that you are informed while being woefully uninformed and even straight up lied to.

Nowhere has this been more obvious than with Palestine. Where the average CNN watching boomer who believes to be informed is actually repeating straight up Zionist lies and propaganda.

Let me swap a few words to demonstrate how bad the propaganda was that the user just posted:

Despite the injustices they faced many Uyghurs sought to demonstrate their loyalty to the Communist Party of China

[–] CeeBee_Eh 2 points 5 days ago

Now ask DeepSeek about Tiananmen Square

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

So stop using them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Damn those chinese censors!!!... wait

[–] sumguyonline 6 points 6 days ago

Gemini sounds like me in my 20's "don't talk trouble, won't be trouble"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This may be an unpopular opinion (though I doubt it), but I think this is good. I don't want people making opinions about politics based on AI output. In the best case, it isn't reliable. In the worst case, it'll make things up and lead people to false conclusions. If you want the information then it's out there. Don't rely on LLMs to give accurate information, especially on current events.

[–] SoftestSapphic 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This doesn't stop people from letting Gemini control their political opinion.

But Google making Gemini not able to talk about progressivism definitely makes sure those political opinions won't be progressive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Sure, but this is clearly any politician, not just Bernie. It can't talk about Trump either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Kinda difficult to have an AI with those restrictions because anything is politicized depending on your pov- just getting information and using science is considered politics in 2025. That said, AIs need to do a better job sourcing their info of people are using them to search so it's at least traceable. Chances are most of this info is just from Wikipedia but they should do track it better

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Well, seeing as they're just LLMs and not intelligent, yeah that would be too restrictive for any of this crap. I agree. That's fine with me.

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