this post was submitted on 30 Jan 2025
11 points (72.0% liked)

UK Politics

3243 readers
207 users here now

General Discussion for politics in the UK.
Please don't post to both [email protected] and [email protected] .
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.

Posts should be related to UK-centric politics, and should be either a link to a reputable news source for news, or a text post on this community.

Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.

If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread. (These things should be publicly discussed)

Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.

[email protected] appears to have vanished! We can still see cached content from this link, but goodbye I guess! :'(

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Suella Braverman has suggested that the UK could become “the first Islamist nation with nuclear weapons”.

The former home secretary said Britain could “fall into the hands of Muslim fundamentalism” and become like Iran.

She made the incendiary comments in a speech to the right-wing Heritage Foundation think-tank in Washington.

Braverman said: “Vice-president JD Vance said at the National Conservatism conference, at which I also spoke in the summer, that the UK was going to be the first Islamist nation with nuclear weapons. I don’t think he was joking.

“Is it an impossibility that 20 years from now it will be the UK, not China or Russia, that will emerge as the greatest strategic threat to the USA?

“Born out of a broken relationship and weak leadership. What happens if the UK falls into the hands of Muslim fundamentalism, our legal system gets substituted for Sharia Law and our nuclear capabilities vest in a regime not too dissimilar to that of Iran today?

“Regardless of whether one thinks that is a realistic outcome, which I do not, should we not have the courage to ask these questions?”

top 20 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

How exactly is this supposedly going to happen? Given how massively under represented Muslims are in parliament, how exactly are they going to gain control.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Only 6% of population is muslim.

This is just feeding a dangerously crazy rightwing meme. Stupid irresponsible woman.

[–] A_A 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Unless France gets there first. /s
Also, isn't Pakistan and Islamist country ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Islamic yes, Islamist I don't think so. That usually refers to a much more fundamentalist ideology. That said, Pakistan did test its first nukes under the dictatorship in the 80s, and while I don't know much about that period it does at a surface level look like it could probably be described as an Islamist period for Pakistan. So maybe there was an Islamist nuclear power and isn't anymore?

[–] A_A 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Whoops, you are right, i don't know much about pakistanis separation of politics and religion today ... I went with the word used in the title of the post without considering it's exact meaning(s), which are now :

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Islamist
Islamist (plural Islamists)
1- (now rare) A Muslim. [from 19th c.]
2- A scholastic Muslim who specializes in Muslim academics. [from 1910s]
3- A Muslim who espouses Islamic fundamentalist beliefs. [from 1980s]

interestingly, it should be easy to say that USA has now become a ~~Christianistic~~ Christianist country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Oh, interesting, I didn't know about the earlier usages!

[–] Skullgrid 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep.

Who would have thought that one of the most racist and cruel conservatives would be wrong and lying?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

And she's Goan... That's really geographically close to Pakistan... What a dum dum.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Islamist is just an incendiary term to excite racists

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At least we now have evidence that it aint that white people are evil piece shit but rather anyone who has money and power.

Can we now focus on fighting this class war?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Good to hear the class war is back on, that whole race war business wasn't working for me.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

She's in fucking cuckoo land. Dumb fascist arsehole.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Probably won't though, eh?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

It is either that, or giant ant women from the planet arseholia.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Inshallah, sister Suella!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Who the fuck is this woman?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

An idiot from the most far-right faction of the Tory party.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's weird because she was so sensible and well-balanced when in government. Perhaps she has been replaced by pod people. We should try and rescue her - I have a few days free in April.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I'm sure they'll give her back before then.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Ohh, it's the Huffington Post. I was very confused for a minute there.