I refuse to mark scooters as motorcycles.
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I roll my eyes every time somebody brags about sticking it to big Corp by messing up captchas.
Your data is discarded if its below an expected level. You're causing exactly 0 inconvenience and wasting your own time unfortunately. There are much better ways to hurt google
I think you overestimate their competence my friend
That kind of data sanitization is just standard practice. You need some level of confidence on your data’s accuracy, and for anything normally distributed, throwing out obvious outliers is a safe assumption.
If you cut the outliers out of a dataset of whom 30% are bullshitters who are skilled and motivated to bullshit, that doesn't magically make the system more accurate it only makes it more precise since bullshitters have been training their whole lives to bullshit in a convincing way (some went to school for it starting at a very young age) and can often present much more authentic than non-bullshitters and honestly it makes me happy that I know big tech thinks the same way you do on this. It is glorious how poorly positioned it makes these much more dangerous bullshitters to respond or anticipate how these systems will naturally decay.
At a certain point, and it doesn't surprise me in the least that people who think rigidly along the lines of statistics and automation don't get this at all, when misinformation is rampant in a system it is often the outliers that are the critical voices of truth.
If you discard outliers because they are outliers and keep doing it you will get a more refined system precisely because it has gotten better at bullshitting and now everybody always jumps on the bandwagon and meaning collapses into byzantine conformism.
I take my schadenfreude where I can get it : )
We do get what you mean (extremely condescending and reductive take, if you ask me). I was thinking rigidly along the lines of data engineering, as this is, well, a data engineering problem… There just isn’t 30% of people doing this on Google captchas, and this isn’t a “take”, just a reality of the scale and amount of people interacting with Google products. Have fun all you want, you do this, your data most likely gets thrown out, that’s all.
We’re still talking about image recognition, aren’t we? This feels like a general commentary on how Big Tech sees their customer base, which I don’t disagree with, but in my mind was just another discussion entirely…
condescending and reductive
I consider big tech's relationship and valuing of human beings condescending and reductive, so shrugs don't come at me I am the powerless one.
I didn't light trust and decency on fire, excuse me if sometimes I don't extend the grace they refuse to extend to all of us.
There just isn’t 30% of people doing this on Google captchas
Damn, find me something else people are forced to do for no gain to themselves that isn't 30% full of bullshitters, what makes people so honest and hardworking when it comes to captchas?
I would love my data to be discarded. Freeloaders!
Are you the reason why I cannot complete a captcha sometimes?
No, that would be the barons of late stage capitalism that are responsible for that :)
My success rate of those went up after realising I can deliberately make a mistake but unselect a square afterwards.
hCAPTCHA is the worst
I can't get though them most of the time. I try to find a YouTube guide but everything I can find is out of date.
I can't solve Cloudflare captcha most of the time, so I renewed my accessibility cookie at least once every 3–4 weeks, but they started to last a shorter amount of time. So now I just close the tab and move on.
Did you know the name Cloudflare comes from the ancient french word Cloufleir which was slang for a fart? (a cloud caught fire must be a cloud of methane being the joke).
All that to say that sucks, but honestly you aren't really missing out...
I once heard (likely last month on lemmy) that the tests involve the timing of clicks and a certain amount of wrongness. Too fast and perfect means machine.
So go wild.
