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Two sides of the same shit coin (lemmy.world)
submitted 20 hours ago by nifty to c/memes
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[–] Fades 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This is some shit a 14 year old would think is deep lmao

Life is far more complex than a simple good/bad dichotomy. If one is bad and another is much worse; they are absolutely not the same and you actually help the worse one by essentially sane washing the depraved lengths they willingly and want to reach.

With L/R, one has greedy and corrupt outliers and compromised leadership while the other is a majority of grifting hateful racists and sexual abusers who are also greedy as fuck.

You do bad people a service when you smooth out the good/bad gradient into a solely boolean concept. All nuance is lost, and that only helps those in bad faith.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Life is more than black and white, that’s why when you’re presented with a black or white option and they both suck you find a different option, you don’t defend the less sucky one.

And left wing authoritarianism is what you saw in the USSR or China today. It is not simply corruption and greed, it is genocide and suppression of civilians.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

When people thought the Earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the Earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the Earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the Earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together.

The authoritarian left is bad
The authoritarian right is bad
But if you think that the two are equally bad, then you're wronger than wrong

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And if you think that makes either defendable you’ve lost the plot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 49 minutes ago

Good thing I didn't say that.
Too bad you missed when I called both "bad"

Two things can both be indefensible, and yet still one is preferable. Although you lead with "and", you seem to be suggesting that this isn't the case, which is a wild position that doesn't hold up to even that barest of scrutiny.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 20 hours ago

[–] Mr_Fish 23 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Wow. Maybe the left/right wing dichotomy is a massive oversimplification compared to the much more nuanced reality. What a surprise.

[–] marcos 2 points 7 hours ago

It's not even a simplification. It's a bold-faced lie that pretends a lot of different opinions are the same.

[–] Lauchs 12 points 18 hours ago

not today Satan, not today.

[–] BlameTheAntifa 12 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Authoritarianism is right wing.

There is no “left wing authoritarianism”. If there is authoritarianism then it is right wing.

Yes, even that country. That one, too. And that one. Now you’re starting to get it.

Rightists love to use leftist labels whenever it suits their purposes. It’s called “propaganda”.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago

Sure, if you use your own alternative definition of the terms, then all bets are off.

Authoritarianism is about how you're pressured or forced to do things, and left/right is about what those things are.

I know that if we get too nuanced about all the many many dimensions of politics, then we'll spend so all our time fighting semantics and get nothing done. But if you simplify down to a single axis then the terms lose all meaning and you likewise can't communicate anything of meaning.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

There is 100% left wing authoritarianism, look at China today.

Statist chuds come in both flavours.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You mean fascism with red characteristics

[–] passiveaggressivesonar 7 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Thoughts on "On Authority" by Engels?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Engels was a bourgeoisie cunt that doesn't understand what the word "authority" means.

[–] passiveaggressivesonar 1 points 6 hours ago

Can you elaborate on how he was wrong with specific citations from the text?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

These people don't read theory

[–] passiveaggressivesonar 2 points 16 hours ago

If you keep asking this way, they might

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Low tier garbage rant about revolutionaries vs reformists.

It’s the equivalent of a 19th century reddit rant complaining that people don’t want to bow down to authority until we’re magically all ready.

[–] passiveaggressivesonar 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

How was it wrong? Use specific citations from the text

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

No.

Theory is for idiots, time would be better spent on praxis than sitting around circle jerking about what we would do.

[–] zxqwas -4 points 12 hours ago

Difference between communists and Nazis is that one of them lost a world war.