it's very cool to not drive in that country because you don't need to and you wouldn't because you're not fat
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While other countries lag behind, Norway's success demonstrates the potential for widespread EV adoption.
Decades of incentives, including tax breaks and infrastructure investments, have driven this shift.
Basically, if your government really wants it and doesn’t give in to lobbying then they can do it.
It’s many years of concerted effort with successive administrations keeping up the commitment.
Our 2024 figure for % of new cars being electric was 19.6% in the UK so I’d be very surprised if we hit the 2030 target of 80% new cars sold being zero emission.
Geology and geography are also helping a lot.
Norway is also a very wealthy nation, which thanks to its huge oil and gas exports, has a sovereign wealth fund worth more than $1.7tn (£1.3tn). This means it can more easily afford big infrastructure-build projects, and absorb the loss of tax revenue from the sale of petrol and diesel cars and their fuel.
The country also has an abundance of renewable hydro electricity, which accounts for 88% of its production capacity. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg52543v6rmo
If you think we actually invest in infrastructure, you are sorely mistaken.... I mean yes, we have a decent charging infrastructure. Driven by Tesla purchase and gas stations following through in order to retain EV customers. So some infrastructure is needed to support that.
But we don't even have good enough infrastructure to distribute an abundance of hydro electricity from North to the South, while at the same time we export electricity down to central Europe from the South, so prices fluctuates a crap ton.
Don't get me started on train lines being neglected for the past 50 years. And as most countries we are realising that all our sewage and water lines need a massive renewal....
Maybe we should use more of the oil fund for these tasks, but I believe there would be large inflations if we tossed the oil fund around to fix everything....
Yepp, it’s odd to celebrate the milestone to emobility if one knows it’s paid all by carving carbon out of the earth. The goal of Emobility is to reduce carbon emissions - as far as I know.
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I'm not saying they aren't downplaying it, but it's also a population of 5.5 million of highly educated and high per capita income, which makes easier to implement. Small population and people who can afford it.
Maybe but so far in the us, it’s not the large population or lack of affordability blocking EV adoption, as much as politics, conservative backlash, Facebook science, outrage culture. If we could put aside our toxicity, spite, narcissism, and come together for a better future, we could be pretty far down that road too
Certainly valid that there isn't a cultural norm for it in the US. With that said, the US still has about 3.3 million EVs on the road. Norway has about 3.4 million cars on the road total.
So it's a heck of a lot easier to enable 5.5 million people to replace their cars then 330 million people. Size matters as much as the identity we have with it on this one.
That works both ways. Norway doesn’t have a large base of car manufacturers who can follow their guidance, but the US does, including Tesla who did so much to popularize EVs and used to dominate
Any large transition need guidance, incentives, motivation to happen in a reasonable time. Norway did that. Meanwhile the us is an inconsistent mess spewing FUD, lobbying by entrenched interests, and very short term thinking. Of course we only have the early adopters who could wade through all that resistance and now with Musks jump to the right we have a whole new obstacle.
- how did Norway get chargers? We just now started government funding and it’s likely cancelled
- when did they provide incentives to help encourage expensive purchases? Us again just recently started a federal incentive, it has been inconsistent and likely will be cancelled
- I’ve ready that Norway had incentives at registration, parking, toll roads. US still hasn’t done those and several states make EV registration more expensive
- too many in the US still claim EVs are impractical or more polluting, even in the face of all evidence to the contrary, while Norway did it
- does Norway have things like “rolling coal” or “ICEing”? Vandalism for copper scrap? What kind of toxic trash does that?
the article points out that due to norway not having a major automobile manufacturer, there was pretty much no lobbying against the laws, so that's a bit of a tick in the opposite direction. the US has numerous very powerful lobbies making it as hard as possible to pass these laws.
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They don't withdraw much from that fund though and have an annual ceiling of 3% of its value, they still pay a good amount of taxes (22% on income, 25% sales tax). Blaming the oil fund just shows how lacking other countries management is.
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Has no one told them that EVs don't work when it's cold?
/s
I swear all my coworkers keep asking what I'm going to do when my battery dies in the cold smfh
and even my wife still has range anxiety despite traveling half of I-95 multiple times
This was such a big worry of mine, but I'm only down 12% average versus the summer and I live in Canada.
yeah on a recent trip it went from like 2.8 mi/kw to 2.3 mi/kw as the weather went from above to below 0 C but the way you hear some people tell it if the snow falls you'll be stranded at work and won't be able to drive ten miles home 😑
Also, a solar panel is worse for the environment than burning fossil fuels for 20 years, and windmills make everyone nearby sick because they spin and disturb the atmosphere.
Literally things I've heard IRL in oil country from people who, clearly, went looking for a personally affirming worldview.
Norway: don't get high on your own supply...
Norway progresses while the USA regresses going full fucking 3rd World with Orange Nero.
Just give us 10 years and we'll be right there with you.
Really? No~r~ Way!
~(sorry~ ~for~ ~the~ ~terrible~ ~joke~ ~lol)~
Meanwhile our Premier just floated the idea to delay the ban on gas car sales... Fun how a new president in the neighboring country makes us give up on our emission goals...
But did they stopped exporting oil and gas? ~/s~
But that's emissions outside of our environment so that's fine, no worries.
Please Europe keep buying our natural gas at record prices.
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