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And what are we pretending to be?

"Humans".

And what are Humans?

"Not animals, that's for sure!"

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If aliens were to visit Earth, human vs. not-humans (aka sentient vs. not) would be the single biggest thing to consider. Far more so than male vs. female, plants vs. animals, even alive vs. nonliving (rocks), humans can literally send nukes in their direction while they hang in outer space, while literally nothing else can. We light up the night sky... on purpose and could stop it in a moment if we wanted.

We're kinda a big deal.

Although now computers (e.g. Skynet) could do it too, so it's humans and those highly specialized rocks together on one side, vs. literally everything else on the other.

So humans are not "just" animals, like computers are not "just" rocks.

[–] NONE_dc 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So, what we are then?

(And, at the risk of sounding harsh, what's with the constant duology? Why the mania of dividing everything into "this" and "that"?)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We are humans. We are animals. And we are more than that. Perhaps we are also lesser than that at the same time?

The duality was how the idea was presented to me - this is not my OC, or perhaps the words are but the concept I first heard told by an atheist apologeticist (if that's a thing) Daniel Dennett speaking out against Intelligent Design (which at the time was still a thing that people bothered arguing against). I believe he was relating it to a binary classification scheme such as machine learning approaches are often built to follow. Anyway it's just a vehicle for the conveyance of the idea - obviously nuances exist irl, yet there is some value in keeping things simple too, especially at first.

[–] NONE_dc 3 points 3 days ago

Hmm, ok. Now I can see the point you where making. Thanks for elaborate.

[–] makyo 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I was thinking about this the other day after watching some Twilight Zone or something. It's interesting that a lot of our fantasy/sci-fi is about how pathetic humanity might be compared to alien beings, especially since in reality we actualy play the role of the highly superior beings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

That style does seem to predominate, especially in video form, but there are others where humans compete more on if not quite fully equal than at least more equal terms. Babylon Five springs to mind there.

Also more outside but some still fully inside of "scify" the more "fantasy" elements may posit the existence of alternative universes that we travel to & from not by traversing physical space in between but through portals, accessible here on earth. Like Stargate.

So, those others are out there, but yeah it definitely meshes less well with what we see and know now about what might be in space.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The only animal capbable of destroying the earth and creating stock exchanges. And vaping. And sending a message to the universe.

Plus the 1969 Chevrolet Corvette.

Ha! Suck it, trilobites!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Only second to cyanobacteria.

[–] poplargrove 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We may be animals but we sure arent animals.

[–] NONE_dc 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In what way we aren't animals? (And please, don't mention technology or civilization, that's an easy one)

[–] poplargrove 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Being concious of and being able to critically look at what we are and how we act would be one answer. Sort of like what you did when you made this post :P

The cat outside isnt arguing about ethics, doesnt think about the consequences and decide not to act on some base desire, etc

[–] NONE_dc 2 points 3 days ago

Good point. I'll give you that.

[–] Windex007 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

What would it mean to you, to stop pretending to edit: NOT be animals?

[–] NONE_dc 2 points 3 days ago (5 children)

To "Stop pretending we are not animals" to me is to stop the antropocentric way of seeing nature and the universe.

For example, is not that certain animals have "human-like" behavior, but rather that we, as animals, share the certain behaviors with other animals.

And I'm convinced that, if we understand other animals more, we would understand ourselves better.

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[–] db2 2 points 3 days ago

The people following Abrahamic religions do anyway, their magic books tell them so.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

If this definition sits well with you, you're probably theist.

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[–] B312 -5 points 3 days ago (26 children)

We are above animals though, humans were able to conquer the earth, light it up, send its people beyond it, create complex language and more whilst animals can’t really do any of that

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[–] dohpaz42 -4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You must be high. That made no sense.

[–] NONE_dc 4 points 3 days ago

I was already expecting this type of comment to appear at any time lol. Ok pal 👍

[–] nekbardrun 1 points 3 days ago

Not sure if high, but OP is definitivelly BASED!

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