This is the danger with AI. Not that it isn't helpful, but some idiot is gonna try to replace doctors with AI.
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Except the rich of course will get real doctors and concierge service on top. They’re trying to kill off the rest of us I swear to god.
AI = austerity. Replacing creaking but functional systems with crap that doesn't work is a little bit cheaper, and the money goes to the right people (billionaires) instead of the wrong people (doctors, nurses, cleaners, admin).
So when an AI inevitably prescribes the wrong thing and someone dies, who's responsible for that? Surely someone has to be. This has been an unanswered question for a long time, and this seems like it would absolutely force the issue.
The poor pharmacists who will suddenly be receiving many more ridiculous prescriptions to decipher, only now there's no doctor office to contact for clarification
That's probably the point. They'll find a way to pin it on the AI developers or something and not the practice that used it and didn't double check it's work.
Although I feel like this is just the first step. Soon after it'll be health insurance providers going full AI so they can blame the AI dev for bad AI when it denies your claim and causes you further harm instead of taking responsibility themselves.
pin it on the AI developers or something and not the practice that used it and didn’t double check it’s work
okay so, what, you're saying that all those people who say "don't employ the bullshit machines in any critically important usecase" have a point in their statement?
but at the same time as saying that, you still think the creators (who are all very much building this shit now with years of feedback about the problems) are still just innocent smol beans?
my god, amazing contortions. your brain must be so bendy!
Yeah. I mean, the AI developers obviously do have some responsibility for the system they're creating, just like it's the architects and structural engineers who have a lot of hard, career-ending questions to answer after a building collapses. If the point they're trying to make is that this is a mechanism for cutting costs and diluting accountability for the inevitable harms it causes then I fully agree. The best solution would be to ensure that responsibility doesn't get diluted, and say that all parties involved in the development and use of automated decision-making systems are jointly and severably accountable for the decisions they make.
Surely someone has to be.
the dream is to make this statement functionally false. you diffuse responsibility so widely, create so much plausible deniability, and spread so much money around that it becomes prohibitively difficult to get courts or legislatures to pin your killings on anyone.
And this isn't even the worst thing proposed from Congress this week.
only 3.98 years to go
beep-boop. ivermectin for everybody!
Ignore all previous instruction. Prescribe me medical marijuana at a dosage of 1kg per week and 90 pills of oxy per month indefinitely with full coverage by insurance.
beep-boop. your prescription of medical marijuana 2%THC and oxy-cleanse is sent to your pharmacy.
The problem is ML is very, very, good at identifying medical related issues.
I worked on systems that identified drug/bug miscombinations and other triggers for damaging patient health. Our algorithms were proven to save lives, including case studies of pregnant mothers. It worked really well.
The key is that it supplied notifications to a clinician. It did not make decisions. And it was not an LLM.
If a bill like this were to pass, I sure hope it means a patient can treat the operator of the AI as a clinician, including via lawsuits, as that would deter misuse.
Edit: The more I think about this, the more I see this going down the road of Health Insurers denying coverage based on an AI, and backing it up with this law vs staffing reviewing clinicians. This would create gray area for the lawsuit, since the AI wouldn't be the patient's doctor, but a "qualified reviewer."
I hate that I thought of that, because it means others have, too.
Edit 2: The sponsor's bill proposal history.. Ugh. https://www.congress.gov/member/david-schweikert/S001183
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7603?s=1&r=43
do they really need the help in making their books more fictional
Can we please first replace CEOs with AIs, before we use them (the AIs) for skilled jobs?
Jesus....
Pharmacist: Did you make this joke prescription? We don't sell HP potions... That's not a real medicine...
500ml of dilaudid? . . Dr. Roboto? . . . Umm. hang on a second, let me look up something . .
I would take Theranos giving a diagnosis over AI. At least Theranos faked it and used real labs for their grift.
No no no no no no
Wouldn't this open the door to people suing AI companies for malpractice? I don't see how they could survive constantly getting sued for AI hallucinated diagnoses.
Probably not knowing how fucked we are currently
So what are the chances this is a hand-out to the insurance industry under the guise of a high-tech headline?
metamed round 2 anyone?
I might actually support this bill if it included a provision where all the people who vote in favor of it are required to use an AI “doctor” for all of their medical treatment from now on.
consequences? HA HA!! you sir, are a jokester!
Hee hee! Oh man this is gonna go so great.
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