Blåhaj Lemmy is a Lemmy instance attached to blahaj.zone. This is a group for questions or discussions relevant to either instance.
Speaking of which, I was in a discussion about that yesterday:
I specifically avoid .ml and .world because the collective behavior (i.e., hostility, downvote trolling, etc.) is so much like Reddit.
Beehaw, Hexbear and Blahaj have all disabled downvotes, but Blahaj is the only one that's decent, which is why I'm here.
(I would link directly to these if I could, but am having issues with that.)
For what it's worth, Discuit is also a generally friendly place.
Obviously I'm generalising here, but I feel like this is largely the outcome of putting a bunch of middle-aged white STEM bros on the same small social media network as a bunch of queer communists who trend a lot younger.
The latter group would be mostly content keeping to itself (albeit with the usual amount of infighting), but the former group sees it as its god-given duty to barge in and disrupt any and all "echo chambers" they happen into online. They have all the social awareness and political literacy of the stereotypical facebook boomer, they're just more technically literate.
To be clear, a lot of folks here are perfectly amicable, but if the quality of the experience on Reddit hadn't dropped so drastically in the last two and a half years that I found myself questioning my sanity I probably wouldn't have come back here.
My advice is don't hesitate to block someone for being a dick, and be ready to report anything you think is actionable by community moderators or site admins.
Be nice if most of Lemmy had mods and admins who removed hate speech
Yeah, I guess it would.
It's absolutely been worse here lately. I don't know that I'd call it worse than reddit, but Lemmy is definitely trending more toxic. I'm certainly not a heavy user by any means. Idk if the more reasonable voices have just become less active or if more toxic voices have arrived or what, but where as 6+ months ago things tended to be more discussion prone than antagonistic, it's now mostly antagonistic, especially in the more popular communities.
I will say, I've left many of the lemmy.ml communities in favor of similar communities on other servers and that's helped as far as making my feed of posts less toxic to boot (and less spammy).
I haven't done much of my own moderation in blocking so I'm running mostly based on the server moderation.
American election season with a userbase opinionated enough to leave Reddit on principle, as the world burns and the holders of the most important positions in it decided to start fiddling.
And then a fascist party won.
It's going to get spicy everywhere.
I don't agree its as bad or worse than Reddit which is packaged fury everywhere. However, the last few months tempers have certainly risen and bad-faith takes and antagonism are more visible in some communities. There seems to be a lot more right-wing people, or centerist apologists at least, than there were before the US election results and I think those results might play a part - emboldening some to speak up and causing so much stress in others that they lash out where they wouldn't have before.
Just make liberal use of the blocking options and take your time to find your people.
I will say, lately lemmy has been in uncharacteristically confrontational. It's been a rough year so far, hopefully things chill out
US elections didn't help
Agreed. I've followed less and less of all content since probably mid October.
Americans are mad, everyone else is mad at us for what happened. I don't fault anyone for being mad, but I feel we've only got like a dozen Trump people on Lemmy, so everyone's just taking it out on each other.
We're gonna be screwed for a long time if we can't stop infighting.
I totally understand that. A lot of people here are arseholes.
I think my experience has gotten much better now that I have a long blocklist and am on an instance with downvotes disabled. But yeah it doesn’t feel super friendly all the time here.
But I feel the same way on reddit.
Yep yep yep, it's very confrontational and getting worse by the day
I think that your desire for a place where you can discuss the experiences unique to your generation is totally reasonable, and I'm sorry you've gotten backlash for asking how you can have the same thing others are enjoying. To me, there's obvious value in a Gen-Z community. Later generations too eventually.
My friends and life were already firmly established during the covid lockdown and I imagine that the younger you were the more impactful that period and the time after it must have been. I'd love to watch younger people talk about that time of their lives if only so I can learn more, and it's obvious I could learn other things I'm not even aware of yet from younger people's conversations.
I for one hope you stay, and even if you don't feel up to starting a new community I hope you get what you're looking for. There's nothing wrong with posting to a slow or dead community and just thinking of it like a small forum every once in a while. You're definitely not the only Gen-Z on here, and if you post someone else might feel more comfortable posting too!
Thanks, it generally means a lot! I just thought Lemmy is more welcoming instead of whatever is not in majority of the users' interests is bad and malicious.
Sorry to hear.
I saw your post yesterday, I knew it was going to get negative reactions.
Maybe you can try more positive communities like [email protected] ?
There is a selection of communities here: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20504960?scrollToComments=true
If that may help, someone told me I was an "energy vampire" today, so it seems like everyone will get a not so nice interaction every once in a while. I hope you'll stick around, but it not, all the best!
Well dang it! Here I thought me being tired all the time was just me being old as fuck!
You stop sucking me off, Colin!
😂
Colin Robinson is the best character on WWDITS so that's a compliment really
It started with "they’re basically an energy vampire that just drags down the vibe of Lemmy with constant but what about or I don’t fully agree replies" so I'm sure it's not supposed to be as flattering as a comparison to Colin Robinson
I know you're venting, and there's not much to say to help.
I am genuinely surprised that you've found lemmy more unwelcoming than reddit. Yeah, it runs higher to snark here, but there's less outright nastiness. But on either platform, it usually is going to come down to the community and the type of community.
You know, gaming communities tend to run high to assholes because gamers run high to assholes. Same with specific anime series or other fandoms. Politics is always a shitty subject matter to talk about. That kind of thing. But, you step into one of the knife communities on lemmy, and you don't find the kind of aggressive jackassery that's available on reddit ones (not all of those, a couple managed to keep good mods during the debacle).
It sucks that people suck. Genuinely, I'm not dismissing your experience. I haven't found any corner of the internet that doesn't have suckitude due to sucky people, though some specific communities/subs/forums moderate for a civil and chill atmosphere. The jerks still pop up in those places, but they get whack-a-moled soon enough.
Yeah, I do think it comes down on whatever communities you're in which varies what the experience be like. Lemmy is very open-source focus which great asking for support and even finding interesting FOSS project but terrible how angry they get anything corporate or proprietary related and even they expectation for newbies to do.
You're going to likely interpret the following as snark or more anger, but I promise you it's not. I ask the following in good faith: if you encounter folks who believe that large corporations, generally, and the use of proprietary software/hardware by those corporations, specifically, are having harmful effects on humanity, do you expect those folks to respond without emotion when those subjects are broached? If so, why? Is it because you disagree with their assessment harm or is it because you believe that anger is never acceptable? Something else perhaps?
There are those who believe that even when confronting brutality and viscous exploitation, those who stand in opposition may only politely ask for change. Some other folks believe that these calls for restraint serve only to uphold and support the exploiters and the brutalizers.
You seem to be coming from a good place and your desire to get away from reddit probably reflects a belief that there's something wrong there. But maybe take a step back and ask yourself if there's a good reason that people seem angry?
You're going to likely interpret the following as snark or more anger, but I promise you it's not. I ask the following in good faith: if you encounter folks who believe that large corporations, generally, and the use of proprietary software/hardware by those corporations, specifically, are having harmful effects on humanity, do you expect those folks to respond without emotion when those subjects are broached? If so, why?
I do believe that large corporation should be held accountable for whenever they done anything shady and suggest alternatives as well as state the pros and cons of it.
My issue is them replying angrily at the people that happens to use it, not even knowing why they use it instead of the alternative, if the alternative can delivers what they can already do. Not all alternative are "one size, fit all" and sadly, some are more a compromise rather than they would get any benefit from using it.
You seem to be coming from a good place and your desire to get away from reddit probably reflects a belief that there's something wrong there. But maybe take a step back and ask yourself if there's a good reason that people seem angry?
I saw it the whole thing more as them assuming I want an community to mainly talk crap about older generation which isn't the case. To me, I vision the Gen-Z community I was wondering exist in Lemmy being like sort of like "90s kids" Facebook group which post meme related their childhood and stuff they grew up with. Again, not trying to do some generation war and talk crap at them.
If some have read my reply to others, they would realized that. But instead, they jump into conclusion so I felt like I was being yelled at for being a idiot for even asking and get accused for something I wasn't even thinking about.
If the tone is something like:
"I'm not too sure how good idea is having separate community for generation is as we're aleardy divided personally. But you find it better joining any community you find interesting"
I wouldn't be too upset and won't feel attacked and I can reply saying "It isn't meant to be a divide, rather..". But instead, they begin with "Fuck Gen-whatever" and be passive aggressive to me. That what annoyed me the most.
Seems reasonable to be honest
one of the knife communities on lemmy
Which ones do you recommend?
Those are the two I like the best. Both are relatively slow compared to the reddit ones, but everyone is really chill.
There's also [email protected]. It isn't a knife community, but it's knife friendly, and while it's slower than me on a cold morning, the user base is great when they're active.
Thanks!
No worries :)