A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!
1. Be Civil
You may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.
2. No hate speech
Don't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.
3. Don't harass people
Don't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.
4. Stay on topic
This community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.
5. No reposts
Do not repost content that has already been posted in this community.
Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.
In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:
Australia still wants to be America when it grows up
America doesn't have Drain Addict
S P R A W L
It will take generations to fix that generations of lack of planning
Yeah if you don't have somewhere to park something you shouldn't buy it, it's like someone living in an apartment buying an RV then parking it on the street because they have nowhere else.
Ban privately owned cars within medium to high density populated areas, improve public transport, expand railway to serve at least 90% of the population, remove street parking, and you won't have to deal with this stupidity anymore.
Don’t ban cars. Slowly start removing lanes and lower all speed limits to 30 kph until there’s just one left for emergency vehicles. Remove surface lots - underground parking is much more expensive. Improve public transportation. Impose congestion fees as % of net worth.
You're just describing the steps to a car ban 🤔 You might not officially call it a "ban", but removing any incentive to have a car achieves the same result. It's just a carrot approach vs a stick.
It would make a big difference in the US, where nudging people to make a choice is better than telling them flat out they can’t do something.
Also, I’m pro car for fun but not for daily use so… I don’t want an outright ban
You would still need (small) trucks to stock the walkable grocery stores.
They can use the emergency vehicle lane. It’s really more a service vehicle lane:
Emergency vehicles, waste collection, goods delivery, etc.
How does the emergency vehicle get past if there's a service truck making deliveries? Or is it a 2 land road situation? Or do they honk until the truck moves out of the way? I'm having trouble picturing it.
There are a few ways around it.
Procedural. Sensors on each block so the dispatcher can route the emergency vehicle around the blockage.
Have back alleys for a given neighborhood so that service vehicles can park without blocking emergency vehicles
Have delivery spots every couple of blocks. With smaller but more frequent stores, a couple rounds with a hand card would work fine. This would leave lanes clear
Ty this makes a lot of sense
Why not ban larger vehicle sales?
This is the only sensible option.
If you need a large truck, then you should have commercial or industrial property to park it at.
They don't belong in residential areas unless they are there for work by a trade person or delivery service.
Are you crazy!? Of course they need guns! Every large truck and SUV should have a large turret and big big ammo for when we have to fight the Russians.
One problem we'll need to solve is temperature. Today at 16:00 on my way home the road was 51°C. I know this because that's the temperature my car thermometer measured.
I want to use public transport, but until we figure out how to walk to the bus stop and wait for the bus without dying it's not going to happen.
Climate change will force people in your situation to move to more habitable areas.
Yeah, that's not going to happen. I'm already in a "habitable" area, Perth in Western Australia. Unless everyone moves to the Arctic, we need to solve the problem in another way.
If it's 51c in the shade you can't habitate that area for very long
It was 51°C on the road, which is why I commented on taking public transport requiring us to solve how we deal with temperature. The maximum "official" temperature was 43.6°C.
Thanks for the clarification as I was confused how 51c was livable for most.
I believe in Japan, or Tokyo at least you have to prove you have a parking space to purchase a vehicle. This encourages the purchase of smaller vehicles or no vehicles. I guess that's how the smart people get to 40 million without dieing from smog. Adelaide is a country town sprawled over a vast area. When I was younger I used to like living in he inner burbs but the sprawling outer burbs are a depressing wasteland. You are better probably off living in country SA if you can find work.
Adelaide is a very inefficient and boring low density city designed to serve the interests of low-effort residential property developers which is surrounded by huge housing developments served by islands of franchised box stores. The people there don't want to change. They like the supermarkets shutting at 5pm on a weekend and would rather pay 4 times the price to buy essentials from a wage thieving petrol station. Let them have their big cars. You don't need to live there. People have been leaving for decades and will continue to do so. It is a shame as the place had a lot of potential.
Various places in Japan, yes. Most, if not all, major urban centers require a parking cert from the police station saying they've verified your parking spot. There are exceptions (some places don't require for kei cars, I'm pretty sure I didn't need one for my motorbike in Tokyo, etc.)
I didn't need one where I moved in rural Tohoku for my kei car, but I think I'd need to get one if I got a full-sized vehicle.
It make sense. If you want to own a big car you pay for a parking space. In SA they would prefer to make all home owners pay for a huge parking space regardless of if they want a big car or not. It's better than having people dump them on the street but only barely.
In my opinion Malinauskas is a poor labor leader and mainly represents the shoppies and big business.
I'm almost certain without any research that this is a sensationalist piece and it's actually a proposed amendment to minimum garage sizes for new construction.
Regardless of the big yank vehicles, all vehicles are larger due to the many safety regulations and tech consumers demand.
Have a look between the original mini and new BMW mini, even small cars have gotten big and a lot of new high density residential areas do not accommodate for even small vehicles.
Only rebuttal to your argument about Adelaide is that retail workers (aka 14-18yr olds for the large majority) shouldn't have to work all the time, including on a weekends... maybe it's just me but why do they need to be open after 5 on a Saturday? Groceries are open till 7pm during the week and later around Christmas. This feels very specific, did an Adelaide Woolies/Coles hurt you? /s on the last part but I am legitimately curious tbh.
South Australian, and typically not anti-car, person here. What the actual fuck. I’m so sick of these giant yank tanks getting around and now we’re trying to be more accommodating to these rolling cod pieces?
If the cost and availability of parking in the city is impacted by these idiots they should bear the costs with increased on-road fees for large vehicles which will hopefully discourage purchase of impractical vehicles.
I've yet to talk to some one in Adelaide who likes those cars. Tradies, 4WDers, grey nomads, no one likes them. I figure the only people who buy them are actual sociopaths
🤔
So close, yet so far...
Why don't those australians just take the subway everywhere?
I mean, I know what you're thinking, it's in the middle of the alps and everything but the Swiss have great trains
This is a bit hard to parse, but it's worth noting that Switzerland does have great trains. Often described as the best national network in the world. In this incredibly mountainous country, where almost every line involves multiple tunnels and bridges and viaducts, you can get to all but the smallest of towns by train.
I suspect that this is a joke about Australia vs. Austria.
I've heard they've got a secret rail network under Lake Lucerne with a command center in Mount Titlis
I cannot tell if you're joking, but in Perth there is no subway.
Perth isn't in South Australia, but AFAIK Adelaide doesn't have an underground train line either. Australia doesn't really have 'subway' systems, just a few underground stations around the inner city, at most.
OP was talking about Australians and being one, I figured I'd point out the flaw in their reasoning, living in Perth and all.
Yeah I misread the context, sorry mate.
No wucking furries ..