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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The biggest impediment to using lemmy as a less shitty SO/Reddit is that there simply isn't the volume of answers here. Eventually there may be - and I'd argue that the quality of answer is generally better here - but currently there are a lot of questions that simply haven't been asked.

The meme about googling site:Reddit comes out of how deeply shitty Google has let their search engine become. In an ideal world you'd just search on Google and get decent quality responses instead of needing to domain bind your results.

Maybe it'd be helpful to try a quality search engine like Kagi?

[–] Kelly 4 points 2 days ago

The meme about googling site:Reddit comes out of how deeply shitty Google has let their search engine become.

It was two-part, the other side was that reddit's own search was so crap people use google search instead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I feel like when the volume of answers does get to the point of usefulness it'll be infected by the same corporate trash that took over Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Kagi has a "lense" for Fediverse forums, which is a pretty great solution. Maybe adding Lemmy will work if it finds everything mirrored on lemmy.world, I'm not sure. Kagi finds everything on the original instance.

[–] ilhamagh 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I really like Kagi, I've exhausted my free searches.

Sincerely hope they find another model so that they can offer a cheaper plan, the payment system is one thing hindering them IIRC.

Oh, well I just need to get rich I guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree. I'm happy to pay, but not for AI search functionality, and not as much as they're asking.

[–] BothsidesistFraud 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

$10/mo is nothing. Whatever search you use today, you are paying in other ways.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Ironically I'm using a free trial of Kagi.

Paid for the limited plan before, but had not nearly enough searches and got annoyed by the unrolling integration of AI. Happy to be back now, but still not sure about it.

$10 per month is not nothing at all, and if I'm not somewhat confident I am ideologically aligned with Kagi I'll be reluctant to spend so much money on it. I'd rather sponsor open source projects and other things I believe in.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, "[problem] + Lemmy" works

Actually put Lemmy in quotes and it'll return better results

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Ok that actually kinda works indeed, nice😄

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Generically, with site:programming.dev, replace with your own instance.

But it assumes two things:

  1. That the instance is indexed by google.
  2. That the answer is actually there.

You may need to try a different instance for 1, but 2 is not really solvable.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

But what about all instances?

2 is solvable if this search is possible.

What brought me to make this post was how do I simply find the answer to "best lemmy app android"?

I know how to find the answer but it would be nice to search all lemmy instances with such generic questions.

Is there a possibility of site:instance1|instance2|instance3 or similar? Maybe site:*lemmy* [question at hand]

Obviously that's pseudocode but I hope it helps understand what I'm asking.

If at all possible if you could run this in incognito container it would be even better. You never know if a blocked user posted something valuable lol

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

You might try searxng, though due to the way federation works, that's not really necessary. All you need to do is search one of the more federated instances like lemmy.world or lemmy.ml or lemmy.sdf.org and you will pull up anything that server has seen related to your search. User blocks aren't really an issue, since you don't need to be logged in. The only time searching multiple instances would be helpful is if you know the post originally might have come from an instance that doesn't widely federate or is heavily blocked from federation.

Also I've seen quite a few folks from lemmy.ca so you might try your instance's own search. It will usually search federated content as well as local content.

The main issue though is like @[email protected] suggested. Lemmy is young, it doesn't have nearly 20 years of back archives that you can search nor the huge user base that Reddit had to create such a rich back archive. It's getting there, but it is a problem only time and usage of Lemmy will solve.

As for the best Lemmy app, You might give Voyager a go. I use it on iOS and have been quite happy with it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

rust (site:programming.dev | site:lemmy.world)

That seemed to work, I guess you could keep appending instances?

Its just google, so no user specific impact.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Here is my attempt in a separate post:

https://mander.xyz/post/7198692

I feel like though if you put too much site filters, results might be reduced in an unexpected way (like searching "X" thing on lemmy.world and lemmy.ml might produce fewer results than searching "X" on lemmy.world only)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Your instance holds a copy of the information, so just use your instance url. Unless your instance is down, in which case you should not use your instance url

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't be afraid to ask questions here! I was a bit scared at first but you'll get used to it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I find the community here overall hostile unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Don't hesitate to block people with bad energy! A lot can be achieved by blocking a few negativistic folks. :)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

There is This which indexes a couple of different sites