A fall from greatness is inevitable and I'm afraid that the fall of America, with all of her hubris, is going to be spectacularly bloody and unpleasant for everyone. :(
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Been an American in America for 4 decades. From my perspective American decline is undeniable. It is simple fact.
Largely because we can't connect the dots and accept that we should be focusing on the class war, not the culture war, because that's the root of the problem. A lot of the hate and ignorance in America comes from desperation. We're desperate because we aren't losing, we've lost, a class war.
In my opinion the election that just happened was the nail in the coffin. We came together and the majority of us decided to let our oligarchs assume total control. It was a signal to them that they're good to be open about it now, too.
RIP to the middle class.
They say Rome wasn’t built in a day. But also overlook that the Roman empire didn’t fall in a day either. It was a very gradual process.
So the real question is, if the US were to fall, would it be a quick or gradual process?
It already fell, so I guess the real question is how long it takes for people to realize it.
The three branches of government are wholly owned by the triad of evangelicals, Moscow, and a billionaire, they don't have any intention of following the law or constitution, and won't give up power. America is dead.
go on. keep making your jokes and memes.
if you think the rich fuckheads are going to stop at America you're fooling yourself.
Oh I have no illusions they ever intend to stop. They'll take and take until the world is burning into ash.
You are mistaken, you are witnessing the fall of the US republic. At the same time you are seeing the rise of an empire.
Jeez, even resignation is grandiose for Americans.
Still a pale imitation of the British, they had a real empire. America had Puerto Rico and Guam .
I mean it's true. It'll be an empire because we have a ton of firepower and aggression. It'll just be an evil empire.
Sorry world. I didn't vote for the orange dipshit and his enablers.
This is how liberty dies. With thunderous applaus.
Sometimes I wonder if George Lucas had been a better writer how things might have been different.
Maybe if he had done a better job, perhaps it would have done nothing because some dumb movie plot doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things... or maybe it would have help to shift our culture just a bit more in the right direction... The prequel trilogy was meant to basically mirror the fall of the Weimar Republic to the 3rd Reich. You can't tell me the "Execute Order 66" montage was not inspired by old "shlankily klankily's" Night of Long Knives.
By the time he was making the prequels, George was basically God to anyone in his orbit. He no longer had anyone there to tell him "no" anymore, nor his awesome wife to save him in the editing bay, so we ended up with Jar Jar and...
It might sound silly at first, but Gore only lost by the tiniest of margins (and a garbage conservative Supreme Court decision). If even only a few minds had been changed, maybe there would have been no 9/11, no "war on terror" with Iraq and Afghanistan, no Patriot Act, and maybe real mitigations on climate change could have been instituted.
One of my favorite comedians said "The Star Wars prequels were great ideas... executed poorly... but the sequels were poor ideas... executed greatly."
The smallest alterations can change the world.
If the bullet had been an inch to the right we wouldn't be about to give the reins of our nation to an anti-democratic felon rapist.
9/11 was happening . It was driven by the happenings in Afghanistan not the us. Basically the northern alliance was gaining ground hard and consistent against the tailiban.
Ahmad Massoud would have been assassinated regardless . September 9th was the day the taliban won. It just took 2 decades of hindsight to see that.
Oh fuck! You might be right 😯
It can't end soon enough for me. It needs to die.
Classic trolly problem. 350 million of us vs 8 billion of everyone else.
Easy math.
if it wasn't for the fact that Europe F'ed around for 20 years and disarmed, leaving itself vulnerable right around the same time Russia decided to go on a Russkiy Mir-redraw the world maps and kill everyone who resists adventure. I would have been indifferent to it. the never ending lunacy of the US has left me with the belief that it should be broken up into different states. Its clear they hate themselves and each other.
Alas, World War II was for nothing, Fascism is back with a vengeance, it started in 2022 with Russia, and it's entering a new stage in America.
To be fair a casual understanding of history shows they're practicing Christianity as it always has been
They have always disgraced the name of Jesus. Taken it in vain, some might say.
Yeah, hard no there. Christianity in Europe is much more liberal, and I don't just the mean the traditionally more liberal protestants
.....you realize Christianity has existed in Europe for more than 50 years, right? Some of the most horrific things ever done to other people have been done in Europe in the name of Christianity.
Absolutely true, yet only looking at the crusades and the medieval times disregards that modern European Christianity is a far cry from what the American Christians are preaching.
If you ignore 1000+ years of Christianity in Europe then Christianity in Europe is pretty great!
American Christianity is far more "liberal" than how it has been practiced in Europe for nearly it's entire existence. That's my point.
Don't worry, it's obvious from the inside too.
I love that Gladiator, the 2000 film, showed us Commodus a rich emperor who was insanely obsessed with getting everyone's attention and the US has Elon Musk showing everyone that he wants to be at least knows as the best digital gladiator of video games while we have Nero/Trump watching the city burn.
It is like we are working on The Decline of an Empire: Greatest Hits! double gate fold album for 2025.
Well, hopefully you can avoid Poilievre. Otherwise, you might be joining us on the crazy train.
If Carney wins leadership of the Liberals, then wins the election, we should ok.
Still a big hill to climb tho.
a big if. as it stands, the Liberal party has the trudeau ick to it, and I would be floored if they did any better than 3rd place.
Normally hate political memes in this kind of tone and format. The bland "Occupy Democrats" type ones, you know. Can't really find fault in this one though.
It took centuries for the Roman Republic to fall. At some point in time, they were past the point of no return without themselves even realizing it.
I think we are in that position now. We have been on the decline for more than a decade now, and have had several opportunities to correct or reverse course, but the wrong decision is made at every opportunity because it's far easier for powerful influential people to increase their power, wealth and status at the expense of everyone else and suffer no consequences for doing so than it is for them to sacrifice their own power, wealth, and status for the benefit of the collective. Are we past the point of no return? I'd say an argument could be made for either yes or no, but we are undeniably closer to the precipice than we have ever been as a nation since the Civil War (which never truly ended).
The US has been on the decline since the 80s. It's been propped up on a strong economy and tech domination, but it's losing its lead, and late stage capitalism is rotting it from the inside out. Reagan really got this crazy train going
Nah we're at the part when Rome when from Republic to dictatorship
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I can't understand why there isn't a large group of people with marshmallows hanging out in DC. It's just. What does it take?
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