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My initial experience with setting up a voice assistant - attempting to pause pi-hole via voice "stop ad blocker" (lemmy.nz)
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I was trying to get it to pause Pi-hole on request. I'm using Home Assistant Cloud (Nabu Casa) for speech to text, and have also got OpenAI plugged into it for if it doesn't recognise a command. The screen shot is from the debug logs that I eventually found after struggling to work out why it wasn't running my automation.

I'm using the new Home Assistant Voice Preview. Don't get me wrong, overall very happy with it for the price point, but for some reason the cloud speech recognition (I believe powered by Google) is very good at understanding me until I start trying to talk about ad blocking.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is why, even though very convenient, you should never integrate your time machine with Home Assistant.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry, while I integrated my time machine with Home Assistant, it's not exposed to the voice assistant so in theory it shouldn't be able to send me back in time to stop Hitler.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Are we concerned about changing the timeline or something? Why is the goal to not stop Hitler?

[–] spitfire 4 points 2 days ago

Because then we would still have Stalin and the Red Alert scenario. Somehow I believe that would be worse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Oh shit this could well be a bootstrap paradox where I need to stop Hitler in order for me to be here in the future to go back to stop Hitler!

[–] postmateDumbass 3 points 2 days ago

cough antitrust cough

[–] CaptainBlagbird 23 points 3 days ago

I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Use a local, open source voice recognition and the problems with understanding ad blocking related phrases should disappear. 😁

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's running on a Pi 4, they highly recommend cloud in this case because it's not very powerful.

But I also speak with a New Zealand accent, and could not get it to understand a single word I said until I connected it to their cloud option.

The OpenAI integration coupled with cloud text to speech/speech to text has actually been fantastic. It works a lot better than I was expecting based on their warnings of it being very early days. The main problem is the data from home assistant is fed in as a prompt, and so to keep it short it only sends the states. Data stored as attributes is not accessible, so I'm making helpers, scripts, and automations for the assistant to trigger in order to output more data.

[–] douglasg14b 6 points 3 days ago

You can get the same from a local whisperer model to be clear.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It was fast though

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Maybe it should have thought about it a bit more.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Make an alternarive trigger phrase "stop Hitler"?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The problem is it seems to be different every time. Here's my list so far:

screen shot with list of different phrases - stop ad blocker, stop hit box, stop at locker, stop head blocking, and more, about 10 of them

[–] spitfire 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oof Australian (not Austrian?;)) accent seems to be heavy ;)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe I misunderstood but it sounded like you just called me Australian 😲

[–] spitfire 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, New Zealander ;) as someone who lives directly on the opposite side of the globe (Poland) I don’t see that much difference in accent;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT637TV3y5s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not much difference!? Aussies are all Feesh and Cheeps and we're more like Fush and Chups. They are all "Mate, can you get the goon bag out of the esky" and we're more like "Bro, can ya grab us a brew from the chilly bin?"

And if you ask for a tinnie you'll get something quite different in NZ vs Australia.

One time I was on a plane and the pilot was Australian. It took quite a while to work out the language he was speaking was English.

Hard to get them mixed up 😋

[–] spitfire 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you say so;) Please don’t get too offended, it doesn’t sound that different from each other :) Here’s one example of why that might be: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NRdg1MOYxHo

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Haha don't worry, it's feigned offence 🙂

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm really sorry you're experiencing this but it's at least a little funny how botched speech processing can still be.

I don't know enough to really help you, but good luck <3

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Stop at locker 🤣

[–] forbiddenlake 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Reminds me of years ago I wanted to play Lush, the radio station from SomaFM.

Literally could not get anything but Rush. And I have zero Rush in my library.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe you should give them a try. Signals is a really approachable starting point, IMO, but 2112 is a better hard sell.

Just don't listen to Power Windows, Hold Your Fire, or Presto until you're heard their hard prog stuff. I like those albums, too, but things got a little weird when Getty went hard in the synths.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is exactly what I would expect a Rush fan to answer. But seriously, they are great. Sadly I'm too young so I never had the opportunity to experience them live. 3 hour shows of that quality after 40 years of touring is absolutely amazing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Even close to the end (I'm a Zillenial, likely only a bit older than you) Peart's solos were an absolute work of art. That rotating drum stage...

[–] wulrus 0 points 3 days ago

The leading all but one languages help to me a Lord with Google assistant not your relevant