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Created the Dunning-Kruger effect

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[–] partial_accumen 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure I agree with that. I thought Dunning-Kruger requires the person to NOT know they are in over their head or misunderstanding their level of knowledge. "Fake it 'til you make it" is acknowledgement and awareness by the person they are not knowledgeable/competent, but will pretend they are until they acquire the knowledge they lack. The big difference is the awareness.

Dunning-Kruger = not having the awareness

"Fake it 'til you make it" = being very the aware, but choosing to go forward anyway

[–] prof_wafflez 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There’s also a broader definition of “fake it til you make it” that somewhat impacts the thought: I don’t really use it in the context of work or my career, but instead when I’m having an emotionally turbulent time and I need to push through feeling bad by faking feeling good to finally start feeling better.

[–] ultrahamster64 4 points 1 day ago

Please, please, don't do that. I understand that life can be rough sometimes, and there are moments in it when you don't have the time to "feel it out" and you need to just survive, now.

But.. Just pushing your negative feelings deeper down and "faking a smile" is a really bad way to cope and can lead to serious issues with mental wellbeing. So please, remember that all feelings are valid, and are there for a reason. Let yourself have a mental space to feel the emotions fully, even if they are not positive. Coprehend and analyze them, find the situation that is causing them and go from there, doing things that can make it better.

And remember, nothing is in vain, and everything going to be fine. Have a good day :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Plus, I thought it said basically that no-one really gauges their level of competency correctly. It includes people who are more competent than they think they are, as well as those who overestimate their competency.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except Dunning-Kruger is invalid. There's a lot of conflicting data on it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

18 citations is not much for a paper, though.

Anyway, besides a statistical approach is proved out of logical reasons, that you can’t know what you don’t know. Beginners in a field never have the overview of the entire play ground. So, they can’t know what they don’t know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I really doubt many people follow that advice.