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Donald Trump was sentenced in New York on Friday, capping a long and, at times, embarrassing ordeal that saw him become the first ex-president to be criminally convicted.

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[–] krashmo 95 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Merchan suggested that Trump would have received a stiffer sentence had he been a private citizen -- but that the "extraordinary legal protections" provided by the office of the presidency left him no other options.

If only there had been a significant period of time in which he was a private citizen.

What a fucking farce. I hate these people. The hand wringing from these intentionally ineffectual taint lickers is worse than Trump's actions imo. The social contract is dead and so is justice.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess I don't understand their reasoning at all here. Trump is currently a private citizen and the entire point of our checks and balances system is the judicial branch is supposed to not give a fuck about whats going on in the executive branch and issue rulings on what is in front of them.

[–] krashmo 18 points 1 day ago

Nevermind the fact that the whole "you can't prosecute a sitting president" thing is entirely based on a fucking post-it note written by some aide trying to protect another criminal Republican president from prosecution. The fact that anyone has taken that seriously shows you how desperate they are to find any reason to keep themselves above reproach. The simple truth underpinning all of this bullshit is that they have no intention of holding the rich and powerful to account under any circumstances.

[–] AbidanYre 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He still is a private citizen for the next week.

[–] Tyfud 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The courts seem to disagree.

[–] Buffalox 14 points 2 days ago

You can't have your own facts. The court chickened out, and USA is obviously not a nation of law, but of privilege.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean I agree that Merchan was comically lenient here, but it's not his fault that American voters re-elected Trump. Nobody knows what it means to try to jail a sitting president, nobody. The system is designed in a way that assumes that American voters would never vote for a convicted criminal. That isn't the case, so the whole system fails.

[–] krashmo 9 points 1 day ago

If I assume that everyone gets at least three years after they commit a felony before legal proceedings begin (not including the time in which he was president the first time) then you might have a point. However, they don't and that's a pretty fucking important detail. If Garland and the rest of the legal system didn't drag their feet for so damn long then this could have been wrapped up well before the election cycle even started. Instead they waited long enough to give themselves a semi-plausible, but still utterly ridiculous, reason for doing nothing. I have a hard time believing that's not what they wanted the whole time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

But we could have known. Now it’s still another fucking hole in the law for a fascist to exploit later.

[–] MrJameGumb 79 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump is not capable of being embarrassed, he's too stupid and egotistical for that. The only embarrassment here is for our country that such an ignoramus could be elected again

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago
[–] A_A 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i beg to differ that embarrassment with him in the white house is only beginning.

[–] JeeBaiChow 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So I guess America's justice system protects the powerful and only prosecutes the weak, dishevelled and minorities. This is bullshit, and Americans should be disappointed and embarrassed.

[–] Erasmus 3 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Come Jan 20th; the US Militarys Commander-In-Chief, will be a man who is not legally permitted to own a firearm.

[–] Stern 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One can only hope he appeals it and the judge he appeals it to gives him a real sentence.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Coreidan 4 points 1 day ago

Yay. Now he gets to start a brand new embarrassing chapter

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

s/ends/begins

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

First ex-president to be criminally convicted.

First elected president to be criminally convicted and serving.

Man, he is winning. /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

"Embarrassing" my ass.

This "sentence" of "go on your merry way" along with the dismissal of federal cases is everything a fascist could want: carte blanche to commit crimes. As fucking president of the United States.