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[โ€“] MoonlightFox 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We have this in Norway as well. Not sure about statistics, but I haven't paid for contraceptions. My wife gets pills covered by the state if we use those, and I get free condoms if we want to use those. There are other options that are covered as well.

At school and other places young people attend you can just go pickup a handful of condoms for free whenever you'd like. There is also a website in which you just order them delivered to your mailbox in a non descriptive white envelope. I have used that service for over 15 years now.

The URL for Norwegians: (gratis = free, kondomer = condoms) gratiskondomer.no

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That is insanely good. In Germany something like this would probably never happen bc some asshole would be like "hurr durr what if a millionaire used the service, my taxpayer euro would be wasted on somebody who doesn't desperately need it hurr durr we cannot let that happen I would rather not give to a 100 who need it before this unholy injustice happens that would be giving to a single person who doesn't."

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

That's a key component of the thought that stymies progress in the US.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If you're unemployed, is healthcare and yhr contraceptives still free?

[โ€“] MoonlightFox 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Of course, tying access to important services like healthcare to employment would be inhumane. You still need a doctor if you are sick, regardless of employment status.

Edit: And contraceptives are a healthcare thing, and is thus covered. Condoms are a seperate service, but covered and made accessible by the state as well.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is what Germany does.

I ask because US Americans think healthcare in the EU is amazing. Then you realize its illegal not to have healthcare in Germany, and you have to pay for it. Even if you dont have a job.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the costs of health insurance is covered for you during unemployment though

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

And if you dont quality for unemployment?

Some people choose to be unemployed. The German system doesn't really allow for that

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a balance. Either you go on unemployment support and health insurance is covered but you also get nagged by the unemployment agency. Or you spend your savings, get no support and no nags.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Why not just let me be unemployed, live on my savings, and give me free healthcare? Healthcare is a human right. It should just be free like in Canada or the UK.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Good, make this the default in Europe.

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

With the drift to the right, not going to happen. They promised their corporate sponsors free, somewhat uneducated labour which sorta requires unwanted pregnancies.

[โ€“] NessD 17 points 3 weeks ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Good guy Finland. We should all be more like Finland.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We could learn from this in the US, but we won't.

[โ€“] Buddahriffic 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're assuming the goal of the anti-abortion laws is to reduce the number of abortions. The actual goal is to increase birth rates to increase demand for jobs, goods, and services.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Eh. I don't think it's that deep for most people and politicians that oppose reproductive rights. I think that's likely true for some oligarchs that have aligned themselves with the right, and I think that's partially true for people that subscribe to great replacement conspiracy theories. But I think for most people, it's pretty much what they say it is: a moral issue.

FWIW, I was opposed to reproductive rights up into my very early 20s; I truly believed that it was an issue of personal responsibility, and I thought that both men and women needed to suck it up and 'do the right thing' if there was an unintended pregnancy. It took a pretty significant personal event--the loss of my religious faith--for me to see how fundamentally shitty that view was.

[โ€“] Buddahriffic 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I wasn't trying to say that's why everyone who supports abortion bans secretly believes. I just think that's why it's being pushed politically, as well as to get support from those who oppose abortion for whatever reason.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

We have this in France too for people under 26. Works wonders