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A few days ago I was really bored and thought... Fck it, it can't really be that bad and paid for a month, wouldn't hurt to try...

Well that was a waste of money...

1st issue: Can't stream over airplay.

A common thing i do because I'm a lazy piece of sh!t is I have a piece of software called "uxplay" which is a software airplay server that works way better than it has any right to. So what I do when I'm too lazy to get up from my couch is I connect my Mac with the uxplay server and just watch things that way. It's a bog standard M3 MacBook air, nothing done to it, nothing...

So imagine my surprise when I tried to play Netflix while streaming over airplay and just saw a black screen... Yep, it just did not work... I couldn't believe it at 1st but yep, apparently it's a part of their DRM...

Issue 2: 4k is a lie...

Ok, I thought to myself, fine, I'll watch it on my Mac directly... But the quality looked... Off. Sure enough, it was streaming at 1080p with a bit rate so low I could practically count the pixels... Ok, I thought to myself, I've heard of Netflix having issues on Linux (why I didn't even try it on my PC) maybe I have something setup wrong... So I look at their docs and they state that safari should be able to play 4k full quality (yk, the thing I'm fucking paying for), I was trying to watch it on Arc (chromium based browser) so I thought, fair enough, I'm just gonna use safari... I log in do everything.

Still 1080p with an ass bit rate

Wtf

At this point I'm proper pissed off, I would have had less issues had I pirated the fcking show I wanted to watch at this point... But I gave it one last attempt, windows.

3rd issue: Windows... It's by itself an issue

So, I have a stealth windows GPU passthrough virtual machine... The kind that most kernel level AC can't detect. So I went "eh, if kernel level AC can't detect it, surely Netflix won't be able to". And to it's (the virtual machine's credit) it was not detected... Problem is, 4k still didn't fucking work. On Netflix's own fcking website it states that edge should be able to play 4k no issue, so I relented and reinstalled edge to my debloated VM... Well that was a waste of time, the bit rate was a bit better but it was still 1080p... I tried extensions, changing flags, nope, Netflix just did not wanna stream at 4k... DESPITE ME FUCKING PAYING FOR IT... Ok, I thought, I have one last option, Netflix has an official windows app, except it's only on the Microsoft store which just sat there for 5 minutes and then threw an error "unable to apply update" when trying to install the app...

Idk why people would ever pay for this shit, honestly. I didn't expect anything and I was still disappointed. I didn't expect it to work on Linux which is my daily driver but to be having issues on supposedly supported platforms, both Windows and Mac is completely unacceptable.

Afaik, their 4k plan is a straight up scam as I could not get it to stream at 4k, regardless of what I tried...

And I know it's not my internet or my setup, I have gigabit internet ffs...

Sorry for the rant, I'm just really butthurt about having spent money on a service that doesn't fcking work...

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

AIUI Netflix will limit stuff if it sees anything at all creative going on because they are afraid of you screen recording.

[–] themakara 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Part of the resolution issue is probably caused by Netflix silly requirements. You can use hardware that is perfectly capable of handling 4k@60 or even higher, in whatever codec they deliver. But if your hardware is not considered as supported, good bad. An argument can be made for ease of use and general consumer base, but these things shouldn't punish everyone else for that.

[–] Presi300 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

My M3 MacBook air isn't supported?

[–] themakara 2 points 22 hours ago

I honestly don't know. Could be they rated it that way.

Just wanted to point out that Netflix in general is pretty iffy about fulfilling their promises when it comes to 4k.

[–] irotsoma 8 points 1 day ago

4k thing may not be Netflix itself. There's a ton of DRM that has to be working just right built into a lot of hardware and software. Many things can cause it to have issues and it's designed to break if there is anything it considers abnormal. Problem is that it's kinda, sorta new and hardware can't be updated. Same issues happened with 1080p at the time. My PS3 HDMI port broke multiple times during warranty and then I gave up after it expired. Just the slight distortion caused by the defect made the TV and all the other devices decide it was being used to pirate content and so they refused to work. These days the devices are more stable and the media industry has stopped aggressively enforcing the DRM to be so aggressive. But they still are doing it with 4K. Any little bug in a driver, software, or hardware firmware and it falls back to 720p or 1080p if you're lucky.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

It's ludicrous that the original pirate-killer service has become such a bad deal. 13 years ago it was such a good deal that it didn't really make sense to pirate anymore. Now it's triple the price, 1/3 the quality content, and a worse experience.

I would have had less issues had I pirated

This right here is the problem. Consumers are being punished for paying for their service. I would be more than happy to hand over my hard earned money for products and services that are good value. I'm not trying to get something from nothing here. It's absurd that we could get better than they're promising, let alone actually delivering on, and it could cost us nothing.

Yesterday, I learned that several titles on Netflix are locked out from the ad-supported tier "due to licensing restrictions". Inexcusable. Pay, still sit through ads, get a fraction of the library. I think I'm gonna start building a NAS and home library this year. BDs and DVDs can be snatched up for cheap from pawn shops and eBay. I'll do it legally just so I can tell any FBI pricks to go fuck themselves if they should ever decide to check on my shit.

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[–] Presi300 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I have no issue with paying for services and software in general. If the service provides me with what I expect from it. For eg, I can very easily pirate games but choose to buy a lot of them, especially indie games on steam because steam offers and has offered me an excellent service for years...

But when 🏴‍☠️ becomes more convenient, easier and can provide a better experience for less effort is the moment when I stop paying... I'm not gonna pay for the privilege of maybe, if the fcking stars align getting permission to watch 4k. I pay for 4k, you give it to me or I stop paying, simple as that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I do wish 4k Bluray was a little more in reach but it adds so much cost that I can't justify it. I don't even care about watching something at 4k. I just want HDR.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Does anyone else read comments that self-censor swearwords in a squeaky voice? Like the commenter is 12 or so?

Heckin heck!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not really. I let people use the language they’re comfortable with and I don’t pass judgement or attempt to make people be like me.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Buy physical media and read it into Jellyfin.

[–] corroded 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I canceled Netflix several years ago after having used it as my primary source of media almost since they first started their streaming service.

The problem I had is that the quality of their content decreased so dramatically that even though it worked fine from a technical perspective, there was nothing I wanted to watch. They used to have extensive back-catelogues of shows from all sorts of different national cable networks, tons of interesting foreign shows, documentaries, obscure indie films, etc.

Slowly but surely this all disappeared. Networks stopped licensing content to Netflix. As soon as they realized that streaming was the way of the future, they wanted to capitalize on it with their own streaming services. In a way, Netflix was a victim of their own success.

Now they're essentially just a TV network of their own and not the aggregator of media that they used it me. The few decent originals that they have were just not justification enough for me to pay for a service I might use a few times a year.

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[–] scarabic 12 points 1 day ago

Yesterday I was watching Netflix on my phone and tried to switch to my iPad. Because my wife was also watching downstairs, I got the “you are already streaming on two devices” block screen. It even told me that one of them was my phone. So I went to my phone and quit the app. But nothing would convince Netflix that I was no longer streaming on my phone. It took about half an hour for this to naturally clear on its own. Being unable to switch devices is a major technical failing, and should be totally avoidable.

[–] irish_link 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I know I may come off bad with this question but I ran into it a while back and felt like a fool.

What show were you trying to watch, and does that show come in UHD.

When I had it I would stream to the TV so it may be different but not all shows and movies Netflix has comes in 4K.

It may all not give you that option because the resolution of the M3 MacBook Air is 2560x1664 and not actually 4k (3840 x 2160) I understand the pixel density changes things but the native resolution is what I am referencing. Unfortunately Netflix is not going to stream a higher resolution than the display natively supports from my understanding. May not hurt to hit up support with Netflix to see they can do anything to get it to stream 4K. Maybe they’ll even refund your money.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Wrong community. You should join [email protected] ;)

Edit:

reinstalled edge to my debloated VM... Well that was a waste of time, the bit rate was a bit better but it was still 1080p... I tried extensions, changing flags, nope, Netflix just did not wanna stream at 4k... DESPITE ME FUCKING PAYING FOR IT... Ok, I thought, I have one last option, Netflix has an official windows app, except it's only on the Microsoft store which just sat there for 5 minutes and then threw an error "unable to apply update" when trying to install the app...

Sounds less like a Microsoft/Windows rooted issue but rather your debloating process fucked with the fragile internals of Windows.
It's the same as fucking with the permissions on /sbin (don't have a better example) and being surprised why you can't access binaries in there anymore.

[–] Presi300 16 points 2 days ago

Probably, still doesn't explain the Mac issue though

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sort of a tangent, but I’m curious what advantage Uxplay has over the built in macOS AirPlay server. I’m unfamiliar with it

[–] Presi300 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

UxPlay is a airplay server that allows you to remotely stream from your Mac to a Linux PC... You don't run uxplay on the Mac itself, you run it on the machine you want to stream the display to

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Ohhhh, it’s an AirPlay server for Linux! That’s awesome!

[–] Presi300 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 42 minutes ago

Ah, it looks like it doesn’t support the AirPlay video format yet, so you wouldn’t be able to watch videos over it, except via the screen mirroring protocol, which is much lower quality for something like Netflix, FYI. Thanks for the link, though! Definitely adding this to my toolbox

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

[–] Presi300 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I got gigabit for a reason 🏴‍☠️

Shame my server's currently dead

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if this will fulfill your needs entirely, or how you feel regarding piracy to obtain source material, however I've been running Jellyfin for a while with an overall good experience. Subtitles are found and automatically applied, and it's rather snappy.
I use it to watch an episode or two when I'm at the gym.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jellyfin doesn't require or need piracy. Physical media is pretty common for most things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah but that's not as fun. Yarrr

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Stremio with the torrent plugin. Entire web at your fingertips.

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