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My theory: The beagle Scotty lost during the transporter incident was OG Porthos. (lemmy.ca)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by [email protected] to c/tenforward

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The basis for my theory:

If we developed warp drive, genetic manipulation, and transporter tech, I’d reckon even before that we’d first figure out how to make dogs live for hundreds of years. Because that’s easier and of course we would.

I’ve seen people post that it must have been like Porthos v9 because of the time difference, but there’s no way that dog didn’t outlive Archer by decades, because if we’re going to do anything good as a species, it will be making sure our dogs outlive us.

So Scotty lost the OG Porthos.

e: better phrasing

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (3 children)

because if we’re going to do anything good as a species, it will be making sure our dogs outlive us

So, funny thing about this, is it's not at all true. I have a friend who is a vet, and he quite succinctly clarified with some good journal articles that the real issue with dogs' short lives is we just don't care. If we had been breeding for longer lives at any point, they would have no issue with living for decades longer than their current spans. It's never been a priority (and might even be a poor business decision) for breeders to focus on longevity. Even health is only a passing concern for their 'working' period.

Maybe humanity will become better. Someday.

[–] Shialac 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah, most purebred dogs have way shorter Lifespans than random mixed dogs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

One of the reasons that cats tend to live longer than dogs there's a lot of cats are just general muggies, they basically bread themselves.

You can always tell something funky has happened when there's a litter of black and white cats and then a random orange one in the mix. There's always some throwback to an earlier ancestor. But that basically never happens in dogs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There is more going on in the background with cat coat colors, genetically, than dog coat colors, genetically. While the variations are huge in dogs (here's just one breed's possibilities), it's quite possible to know the chances of the offspring from what the current generation are and what their parents were. Here's another look at that. Horses are another one where there's enough going on that you can't always tell what they'll throw.

[–] VindictiveJudge 3 points 2 days ago

Cats are also capable of having multiple fathers per litter, so even taking into account the weirdness of cat coats, you can get more diversity than you expect if another male happens to be wandering by.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is excellent! Thanks for taking the time to share. It bothered me that the quality of the Guide to Housecat Colors and Patterns is too poor to read who the original artist is. I spent some time finding Joumana Medlej (https://majnouna.com/), the original artist, who has an extensive catalogue of work documented on their website.

I cannot find the housecat colors image in higher quality on Joumana's site. My speculation is it's included in the Artist's Guide to Cats eBook on gumroad. I noticed the previews on cerdarseed, searched that site, and found a much higher quality version. While it's fully readable in that small viewport the site owner is trying to prevent folks from downloading the image directly.

It seems they're loading the image from cerdarseed.com/tuts/catcol#.jpg (where # represent numbers 1-8) and stitching it together on the loaded page. I think that's an interesting technical choice worth noting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

That's depressing

[–] teft 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure that genetic manipulation was only forbidden in human beings.

Also remember that Jonathan met Arik Soong. Porthos could have been augmented more than The Dog (by Tendi).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

If I’d met any Soong, I’d have made sure my dog lived forever. Immortal Porthos confirmed.

[–] ummthatguy 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We're talking about this good boi, right?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The pattern buffer was corrupted during transport, which explains the physiological differences.

[–] ummthatguy 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

These things happen and we love him all the same.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

the rare giant unicorn tribble is all bark, no bite.

[–] Blue_Morpho 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

In which episode did Scotty lose a beagle?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Reboot movie. He was improving transporter tech, put an unnamed cougharchercough Admiral's beagle into the system to test it and it went away tae fuck. Which is why he's been assigned to the bumfuck artic station in the movie.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Scotty: How do you think I wound up here? Had a little debate with my instructor on relativistic physics and how it pertains to subspace travel. He seemed to think that the range of transporting something like a... like a grapefruit was limited to about 100 miles. I told him that I could not only beam a grapefruit from one planet to the adjacent planet in the same system - which is easy, by the way - I could do it with a life form. So, I tested it out on Admiral Archer's prized beagle.

Kirk: Wait, I know that dog. What happened to it?

Scotty: I'll tell you when it reappears. Ahem. I don't know, I do feel guilty about that.

Scotty in the 2009 Star Trek movie explaining how he wound up in an especially remote posting.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

In the reboot movie.