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[–] pory 54 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"it's so good it could be an official Sonic game" is... not very indicative of quality.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They probably mean in comparison to the likes of Sonic Mania.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Should come without Denuvo, so that makes it immediately better in my book.

[–] Sanctus 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I haven't ever heard anyone say Sonic 1-3 are bad so this is in the clear.

[–] cevn 0 points 1 day ago

I will say it, Sonic 1 is bad. Going fast is actually never the answer in that game somehow. Maybe I just suck. 2 and 3 are obviously great.

[–] pory 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

"Official Sonic games" run the gamut from Sonic 2 to Sonic Boom/'06. It's kind of the poster child for a franchise that is an unstoppable media juggernaut that has beloved all-time classic games... and some absolute garbage games.

[–] Sanctus 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah but if you watch the trailer its clearly homage to the 2D games. So we can kind of judge quality on that, which flash game developers mastered long ago.

Edit: also Sonic 1, 2, 3 & Knuckles are masterpieces so Idk about this gamut talk including those.

[–] pory 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Even limited to 2D Sonics, there are official Sega products that are just terrible. Remember Sonic 4?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

It's still a tolerable playthrough, especially with part 2 in the mix.

And honestly, people get stuck talking about 1-3 as if they had stopped making 2D Sonic games until 4, but the Nintendo portable games are mostly some shade of solid, with maybe a couple of exceptions.

[–] Sanctus 2 points 3 days ago

Thats a 2010 game and itself a simulacrum of the classic Sonic era. That was also 2.5D and not 2D, which already breaks from what we see in this post.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

There was a period in there where people got into the idea that "it was never good" and made the case for 1-3 as a bit of a contrarian take.

Got way less defensible in the context of Generations, Mania and Frontiers getting a bit of a franchise revival going, but it was a thing for a while.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm always a bit weirded out by these super good fangames that clearly are a sprite swap away from being viable commercial products because... man, just make your own game, you clearly can do it. But at the same time, it would likely not be nearly as popular without it being skinned as a Sonic or a Castlevania or whatever, which is a bit of a bummer.

In other news, go play Penny's Big Breakaway. It's good.

[–] mesamunefire 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Freedom planet 1/2 is also good.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Yeah, for sure. I find it needs less of a defense because it was an early indie darling built on top of a fangame foundation, while Penny's ended up being a bit of a bomb on the back of not having stuck to the license or the specific set of Sonic mechanics.

Both are worth a try, I'm just saying that Penny's could use the attention more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Developer of Sonic Before/After the Sequel actually did that, Spark the Electric Jester. First game is classic Sonic meets Kirby while second and third are Sonic Adventure inspired.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would love a super casual sonic-esque game that you could just mindless meander through without having to worry about falling into environmental hazards or bumping into enemies. Basically just complete and utter freedom to blast through a level without having to think too much about it and not having to fuss with a lot of different controls/buttons. Wonder if anything like that exists.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Fr that’s all I want in a game. Satisfying travel mechanics thru pretty scenery. A Short Hike is great.

[–] TheDemonBuer 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That looks too good to be an official Sega product.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I was about to say that. Honestly looks better than anything released since the first games on the Mega Drive.

[–] rdri 5 points 3 days ago

Chances are it won't be completed, same as many more Sonic fangames. I wish to be wrong.