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[–] freewheel 73 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Musk sent a powerful message to all Tesla owners with this stunt. I hope everyone's listening.

[–] Bdtrngl 54 points 1 month ago

They aren't.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Terribly optimistic of you to assume Tesla owners will take anything at all away from this other than how risky it is to rent out your Tesla.

[–] rayyy 2 points 1 month ago

Most modern cars have the ability to do remote unlock via Onstar/Starlink/Assist/Bluelink/etc.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Easy solution to your worries: don't buy a Tesla. All other modern cars also spy on you of course, but you should still not buy a Tesla. Ideally get a bike.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Tesla is the worst, but you should also avoid Kia and Hyundai. Which is a shame, since they make the best EVs, and as much as I'm a huge fan of [email protected] and urbanism, when you live someone highly car dependent, having an EV is at least better than an ICE vehicle in some small ways.

Incidentally, the best brands for privacy are Mitsubishi, Subaru, and Isuzu.

[–] TwoFacedJanus1968 3 points 1 month ago

Along with your phone, laptop - everyone else's phones, tablets, laptops, doorbell cams - probably every security camera in every business that is connected to the internet. Every police car you pass on the road records your car's license plate number and maybe takes a picture of the driver...

[–] jordanlund 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The last question makes sense... if he was using Tesla charging stations, I would expect those to be monitored by Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Gas stations typically have security cameras

[–] eyeon 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm not sure why this shocks people. It's definitely not new or tesla specific.

Does your car have an app that let's you see data from your car or do anything to remotely control it like unlock the doors? then that can be done by the car company that runs the backend the app communicates with.

It's also not limited to app based things, cars have had this since OnStar was a thing. It's just much more obvious these days.

[–] Psythik 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No cause my car is a 2004 350Z.

No privacy invading data collection; hell, it doesn't even have an internet connection. Just a 300BHP front-mid engine with near perfect 50:50 weight distribution, multi-link double wishbone suspension, hydraulic rack and pinion steering, rear wheel drive, LSD, and a six speed manual transmission. Everything a proper car should have; nothing more, nothing less.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I read this in a 'sexy man TV car ad™️' voice lol

My car is a 2016 Kia Soul and it has Bluetooth which is essentially all I need other than a cupholder and some seats. I don't really carry much in it other than groceries, my school bags, and occasionally a unicycle.

[–] krashmo 3 points 1 month ago

Most people have no idea how technology works. I'm guessing that's not as common on Lemmy as it is elsewhere. Still, if you asked a random person how a remote command from their phone to their car gets processed I doubt many would mention centralized servers controlled by the manufacturer. They'd just say "the internet" or "Bluetooth" or something like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I agree. I read this same article yesterday and instead cringed because of blatant ass kissing. My bigger question is why does the CEO himself personally have to remote unlock the vehicle?

There's also a line in that article (ABC) that reads something like "The son of President Donald Trump and CEO of Trump Enterprises, Don Jr, had this to say on Twitter:"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

hypothetically a hacker (given enough time and effort, perhaps infinite monkey typing amounts) could force an update to Tesla's and make them all go petal to the floor. Or send them all to a specific location and honk their horn. It could've already happened and we just don't know what or when it will happen.* Hell, Elon himself could send 20 Tesla's full speed into someone's house to kill them because they called him dumb on Twitter and probably get off with just a fine.

*cyber security people don't scream at me for the logistics of this. It's just for fun, I know there are fail-safes and stuff.

[–] BigTurkeyLove 11 points 1 month ago

Bet Elon Musk definitely giving girlfriends Teslas just to spy on them.

[–] Telodzrum 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most cars can be remotely unlocked. Anything with an emergency crash detection system or even just an emergency button (usually on the rear view mirror or ceiling console certainly can.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are they usually remotely unlockable by the car company? Because that sounds bad.

[–] Telodzrum 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, specifically by the teams assigned to these products. Things like OnStar have been able to remotely unlock the vehicle to provide access to first responders for decades.

[–] EmpathicVagrant -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s a third party with access, not the manufacturing brand though.

[–] Telodzrum 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not at all, OnStar is a wholly owned subsidiary of GM.

[–] EmpathicVagrant 3 points 1 month ago

Today I learned

[–] Maggoty 6 points 1 month ago

Corporate Governance

Get used to it kids because the regulatory agencies are on the chopping block. That means the only organization deciding how much lead is okay in your food is the giant corporation that makes it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

In a better world nobody would buy/drive his cars from now on. Not that it hasn't been clear for a while that everything happening in and around that car is public domain at Tesla HQ. Like with the footage of people dying and fucking in the cars that was sent around office.