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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago
[–] BeatTakeshi 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
  1. Capitalists living in socialism:
  2. Capitalists living in capitalism:

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

I think there’s a difference between what most leftists want, and the authoritarian regimes with socialist branding that a couple tankies simp for.

Sincerely

  • An Anarchist who has witnessed too many people die because of failings of the capitalist system.
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Meta seems to have rolled out the new "AI" engagement profiles on the wrong platform.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Never wanted so much to downvote something in my life. Capitalism has been riddled with issues and only just fixed itself with socialists solutions (regulating market, dismantling monopolies, social security, unemployment funds, stop segregation and abolish slavery, public services and housing...). You're living in a Battle Royale and thinking it's how it should be because, heck, you got free candies and you can "survive" on them (that is before catching diabetes).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

i lived in socialist bulgaria, it was good

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] EvilBit 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

OP chose ignorance a long time ago

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Socialism is international, of course we haven't seen true socialism or even near to full communism. For these things to take place it must be an international movement that captures beyond 50% globally or the largest manufacturing countries. And then to come to full communism we need the abolition of class, no poor, no capitalist and no vanguard- political class. And for socialism in the Marxist sense we need international revolution, not small reforms here and there, not the weird stalinistic approach of crippling some revolutions and helping others which.

Sorry you came from Poland that sucks but you guys wanted to hold onto your socialist politics as did Russia and many other failed socialist states then look what happened anyway, lost socialism now housing is fucked, rampant privatisation, racism, repression of workers. Poland, Russia, maybe even Cuba soon have sold what was the people from beneath their feet and again. The older soviet generation wanted a reformed state not a capitalist one. The younger generation now pole lower on it as they have no memory and only know what capitalism can offer.

[–] NeilBru 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

A common person in the contemporary era is assailed by many threats to their autonomy: the religious, the nihilists, the corporatists, the fascists, and the alleged "collectivists", who we'll discuss here.

Extreme authoritarian "leftists", A.K.A. “tankies” (i.e., apologists for Lenin, Stalin, Mao, the CCP, the DPRK, Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, Xi Jingping, etc.), are also threats to a free, egalitarian, and open society, are just as violent as their authoritarian competitors, and should be treated with the contempt, distrust, and ridicule they deserve.

Why?

They claim to speak and fight for the proletariat, promising a new utopia, never before seen, once their revolution executes the last “class-traitor”. In practice, once they’re finished with “seizing the means of production”, they’ll never relinquish control and become the new ruling class.

They’ll assume the mantle of an "enlightened elite post-revolutionary administration" to guide the proletariat to their promised utopia of “each according to their ability, to each according to their need”. In practice, "the party leadership needs the most, because they’re obviously the most able” in reorganizing the economic and political structure of society. The utopia of the “dictatorship of the proletariat” will never exist, only the dictatorship of the “revolutionary party” will, and repression and execution await those who question their claims and decisions.

These supposed champions of labor are really harbingers of death of the mind, body, and community. They claim to be the true authoritative “voice of the people”. Understand what they really are; power over everything and everyone, forever, is what they seek. They want you either as a true believer (a willing pawn) or dead, just like all of the other supposedly benevolent dictators who promised utopias throughout history.

They’re akin to the pigs in Orwell's Animal Farm, the loudest voices in the revolution, usurpers of a righteous cause, but a bit “more equal” than everyone else after the farmer is done away with. Fortunately, the pigs, like the farmer, got their comeuppance in the end of the story. And like all pigs, they will squeal when things don't go their way.

Never ever trust anyone or any group that says "I am/we're in charge, fovever".

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You understand Orwell was a socialist, right?

[–] NeilBru 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, he was. I would refine the description as a democratic socialist.

One can be a "socialist" and still be anti-authoritarian.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Demsocs explicitly are not socialist, they just want a welfare state.

And if course you can be socialist and antiauthoritarian, those are opposites.

[–] NeilBru 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

those are opposites.

Not exclusively.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nope, socialism is the answer to authoritarianism.

[–] NeilBru 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If we're talking about economic systems or political parties, socialism can indeed be one "answer to authoritarianism". It can also be authoritarian, even more than what its members seek to replace.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nope, by its definition it's a dictatorship of the proletariat, it's not authoritarian to subvert the rich and prevent capital from affecting politics. But given you subscribe to China bad US good, the left wing isn't really for you.

[–] NeilBru 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes, I don't consider the CCP to be "left wing". Where in my original post did I say "US good"? I don't think you read what I wrote.