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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But if they make you stop, and prove, and justify something obvious. Maybe the patient will die before you can order more expensive services. Think of how much money they could say if if their patients die when they're in the hospital before running up a bill!!!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is exactly the issue doctors are also now facing with abortion restrictions. These expectations are unbelievably onerous and lethal. This is a field where seconds can matter and they want to let lawyers and health insurance companies hem and haw as long as they want because God forbid they maybe occasionally enable something that wasn’t strictly necessary or spend a few dollars more in the pursuit of literally determining life and death.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 248 points 3 days ago (12 children)

For every denial of claim, the burden of proof should be on the insurance company. The assumption should be, if a doctor ordered it, it was necessary.

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[–] HowManyNimons 116 points 3 days ago
[–] PunnyName 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] WindyRebel 13 points 2 days ago

We are all domestic Luigis?

[–] in4aPenny 14 points 2 days ago

I am Luigi.

[–] [email protected] 143 points 3 days ago (26 children)

That's because they know the patient is going to die and it will be cheaper for them that way.

[–] K1nsey6 114 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Their actions will ensure the patient dies.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 days ago

That's how they know

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is the reason I believe every health insurance plan should also include life insurance from the same company. You need to give those assholes an incentive to keep me alive and healthy.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No, then you would just get the equivalent of your car being totaled. If it costs more to fix your body than it does to pay out the life insurance, they will let you die and pay the life insurance.

[–] candybrie 4 points 2 days ago

Currently they just let you die and don't pay anything.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 3 days ago

Just because it is legal doesn't mean it shouldn't be punishable.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 3 days ago (1 children)

United Health Care Executive Ghouls: We can prove that this isn't medically necessary because if they turn off the life support then the patient will stop suffering from the described symptoms.

I'm like 90% sure that health insurance executives are undead creatures that feed on the death and suffering of their "customers."

[–] Narauko 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Have we checked that the CEO is still/actually dead, and isn't just an undead playing possum?

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[–] UncleGrandPa 31 points 3 days ago

Translation from English to insurospeak..... "Wait, she'll die soon and the problem will be solved"

[–] kamen 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yet another time I'm happy I haven't ever set foot in the US.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

The US has become a 3rd world country I dread going to. I would never want to go there now.

[–] FlyingSquid 43 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I just was amazed at myself when I said, "oh thank god," when my wife told me her health insurance would be switching from UHC to Anthem in January. Like no, no thank god, it's still horrible.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes 31 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I know we hate it and they've really done and will still do some deeply fucked up shit, but man...maga is anti-establishment like the left. I'd rather have a class war than a civil war.

A class war could mayyyyyyybe have a constructive resolution. But a civil war? 0% chance. None.

I don't want either at all but for Christ's sake at least have it over the right thing if you're gonna have one.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

You are already in a class war. We are losing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In case you weren't aware, we are in a class war. If you haven't been paying attention to what is happening to Luigi. They are throwing the book at him. They want him dead. They want to send a message. It's not about justice or law anymore.

Your only option at this point is to acknowledge the class war is happening or stick you head in the sand and try to pretend it isn't.

[–] K1nsey6 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

MAGA, whether it's regular or Blue, isnt anti establishment. They fully support their own versions of establishment, and both defend the status quo. There will be no form of civil war among the citizens, but they will keep us divided with meaningless culture war bullshit because it doesn't threaten their positions of power.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

MAGA, whether it's regular or Blue, isnt anti establishment. They fully support their own versions of establishment, and both defend the status quo.

I'm a brown skinned male and experienced backcountry hiker. A few months ago I finished a year living in a truck while traveling the US48, lots of time everywhere except Washington.

My anecdotal experience is that the vast majority of Trump's supporters are silent unless I've earned their respect somehow and solicit their perspective. Then they'll readily communicate why they believe the system is broken, how they've reasoned out that nothing positive is achieved in the US without collective threats and acts of fiscal and physical violence, and the magnitude of their commitment to their principles.

They don't perceive the nuance of the problems. They can barely begin to reason out how to hypothetically solve them while also preserving the agency of others. They won't while they continue to expose themselves to the propaganda often leveraged by their religious and political leaders. If the major trade unions continue to increase their educational efforts then the membership will continue to increasingly favor it.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2 18 points 3 days ago

What civil war though? There are no possible civil or geographic divisions. A class and culture war are the only possible ways out of this mess.

I am on the side where we destroy the culture of greed and eat the rich.

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[–] BananaTrifleViolin 23 points 3 days ago

"United Healthcare - healing health care, by turning off ventilators one by one"

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They don't learn, do they?

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