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[–] orclev 70 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I'm sure one of a great many statements that aged like milk. The sheer contempt that Democrat politicians have for voters is breathtaking. Maybe some day they'll care about voters the way they very obviously care about corporate donors.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Judging by their performance in the last three presidential elections with absolutely zero course correction, I wouldn't hold my breath.

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[–] partial_accumen 19 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Maybe some day they’ll care about voters the way they very obviously care about corporate donors.

How are you coming away with that the lesson to learn? The guys that won care even less for voters. The lesson appears to be: "Say whatever you think voters want to hear at that exact moment with no intention of following through for their benefit."

[–] hark 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If that's what it takes to win then they should fucking do it, assuming democrats even want to win.

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[–] orclev 15 points 3 days ago (16 children)

That's rather the point isn't it? Republicans lie constantly about everything but those lies are about things their voters want. Democrats meanwhile tell their voters that they'll get what Democrats are gracious enough to give them and be happy they're not as bad as the Republicans. In either case neither party is delivering what progressive voters are asking for. Then Democrats wonder why they have voter turnout problems.

People are sick and tired of showing up to vote for the lesser evil and the result being either things only get very slightly worse or much worse depending on who wins. It's particularly hard for people to justify investing that time and effort when they're struggling to just survive day to day and keep a roof over their head and food in their stomachs.

I and many others tried our best this last election to keep Trump out of office but we can all only do so much when the Democrats are working against us every step of the way. We need an actual progressive running on progressive policies out of the Democrats if they want to win an election, because running as diet conservative isn't cutting it anymore.

People gave Bernie a lot of shit for being a populist but you know what? He motivated people. His supporters were excited to get out and vote for him. Unfortunately he was never given the chance and instead we got the same tired "we'll run on Republican policies from two decades ago" Democrats.

Even Obama, the most "progressive" Democrat in at least fifty years, promised socialized healthcare like the rest of the first world countries have but ended up delivering a watered down half assed Republican healthcare plan instead.

So yeah, people are sick and tired of Democrats that only ever seem to be able to successfully deliver things wealthy corporate donors are asking for.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Seems like the Teamsters would have been better running mates than a fucking Cheney

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don’t worry, next election they can get Hitler’s grandson or Putins niece to help them campaign. That should get the average everyday person to come out and vote for them! Everyone loves relatives of super powerful war criminals, right?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

The silver lining of 2024 is watching Kamala's entire political career implode from her own hubris. She's now resigned to HRC hot-potato status that only further polarizes the Dem base.

If the Dems had any sense they'd be distancing themselves from her entire campaign, indefinitely.

[–] hark 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately the democrats have no sense, which is why they have ghouls like hillary clinton continually floating around in the background even after she lost against a clown and everything she touches turns to shit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They have sense- sense to understand that they don't need to win. With the GOP as a boogeyman, they know that even more donations will come in, and they don't actually have to govern, or produce any kind of effective legislation. It's why even when the Dems control the majority of the House, nothing gets done, and why there are always just enough Dems willing to cross to Republican positions to defeat any real progress.

They're just Controlled Opposition at this point, and that probably started in the 90s with Clinton and sucking the Corporate teat with gusto. Even now, we have crones like Pelosi at 84 fucking years old who refuse to do anything other than punch downward at her own party members. The entire party needs to be scrapped.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The silver lining of 2024 is watching Kamala's entire political career implode from her own hubris

That was the silver lining on her FIRST presidential run, but the DNC didn't let it happen then and probably won't now.

A woman of color representing several different groups of people and who will pretend to be progressive sometimes but always change her mind into whatever the donor-determined party line is?

She's catnip to a Dem leadership desperately trying to compensate for not caring about the working class by pretending that optics equal substance 😮‍💨

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