"I think they’re way too obsessed with appealing to these very far-left social progressivism that’s very popular on college campuses."
The fuck?
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The focus groups — held immediately after the 2024 election and conducted by GBAO, a Democratic polling firm — featured three kinds of voters: young men in battleground states who voted for Biden in 2020 and Trump in 2024; voters in battleground states who voted for Biden in 2020 but didn’t vote at all in 2024; and voters in blue states who had previously voted for Democrats, a third party candidate or didn’t vote in 2020 but voted for Trump in 2024.
"I think what the Democratic elites and their politicians believe is often very different from what the average Democratic voter is,” said a Georgia man who voted for Biden in 2020 but Trump in 2024. “The elites that run the Democratic Party — I think they’re way too obsessed with appealing to these very far-left social progressivism that’s very popular on college campuses.”
The only way they could get people to complain about "social issues" is asking people that voted trump
The important parts (that they gloss over) is everyone is turned off by neoliberal elitism.
And courting Republicans won't work because of "social issues" meaning minority groups should be treated equally. That's non-negotiable for the bulk of the party voters, so it's not an option and it means courting republicans is pointless.
But I expect the DNC to ignore everything else and try to just move right on "social issues".
The only way they could get people to complain about "social issues" is asking people that voted trump
Well, he won the election. If you want to find out why, you ask the people who voted for him, as well as people who didn't vote for either candidate.
That’s their point though - somebody voting for trump is clearly not a rational actor, while those that didn’t vote at all would be easier to convince.
If you think they're not rational, then you'll have to appeal to those who you think aren't rational. If you want to win the election that is.
Honestly, I believe most people overestimate intellectual and conscious rationality. Among themselves and others. The rationalizing is usually there afterwards. To justify current emotions, actions and circumstances.
Self preservation, since one can't control much anyways. And one needs a somewhat coherent world view.
Sorry, I misread your comment.
What's do you think the point is?
Next Dem candidate is gonna pledge to staff her entire cabinet with Republicans and seek an endorsement from George Bush, don't you worry
“This weakness they see, [Democrats] not getting things done, not being able to actually fight for people — is something that needs to be figured out,” Russell said. “It might not be the message, it might be the policy. It might be something a little bit deeper that has to be addressed by the party.”
People see Democrat failure. They do not see Republican sabotage.
I find it quite simple. Voters are economic left/progressive and social right/conservative. Center left parties are economic center and social left. The trend is similar in all western countries. And it's a bad match.
There's only one economic platform the US is allowed to have, but seemingly unlimited social platforms. The ownership class doesn't care about social issues as long as it doesn't affect their bank accounts so we're free to have variety there. So we're stuck with two parties that barely differ on economic platforms and focus all their differences on social issues. Since the Dems aren't allowed to make needed economic changes they "have" to try to compete in the social realm. Let's see how far right they move in that respect now...
Fun stuff :/
Very true.