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[–] [email protected] 24 points 13 hours ago

Doesn't matter in the slightest.

me, age 12, San Andreas

[–] [email protected] 70 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Tell me you are corrupted to the core, without telling me you are corrupted to the core.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The reasoning in question:

This game teaches - by way of images, information and gameplay - skills and knowledge that are used in poker. During gameplay, the player is rewarded with ‘chips’ for playing certain hands. The player is able to access a list of poker hand names. As the player hovers over these poker hands, the game explains what types of cards the player would need in order to play certain hands. As the game goes on, the player becomes increasingly familiar with which hands would earn more points. Because these are hands that exist in the real world, this knowledge and skill could be transferred to a real-life game of poker

So, this game teaches skills and knowledge that are used in poker. The skills in knowledge are limited to... playing and making poker hands. That's it. Also, "as the game goes on, the player becomes increasingly familiar with which hands would earn more points" -- is hilariously funny. The idea that knowledge of what a poker hand is is anything related to the dangers of gambling is ridiculous.

[–] SpiceDealer 18 points 9 hours ago

My thief archer build in Morrowind and Skyrim lead me to a life of thievery and now I'm serving a life sentence at maxium security prison. Very sound logic.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

It's really dumb if you know the two games (poker and Balatro).

Poker is a game of incomplete information where you need one single higher ranked hand than your opponent per round. The stakes are money you bet that your hand is better. Bluffing is an important part of the game.

Balatro is mostly a game with complete information (apart from the order of remaining cards in your deck and certain bosses that flip your cards). You bet no money. There is no bluffing. Money does not correlate to chips. It is about the rating of your hand (poker has no rating, only relative ranking). You play multiple hands. You can't fold. Bluffing doesn't exist. Cards can be improved, ratings can be improved, the decks can look nothing like poker decks, etc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

I keep pulling the hermit card out of my tarot deck, but it hasn't doubled my money! Have I learned incorrectly??

[–] [email protected] 26 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

One "teaches" you to gamble, the other allows you to gamble. And the one that just teaches you has a higher rating. Crazy.

[–] GreenAppleTree 7 points 14 hours ago

Totally his fault for not heeding the ancient warning.

Give a man a fish, you get PEGI 3+. Teach a man to fish, 18+ you sucker.

[–] Takumidesh 47 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

As the game goes on, the poker hands also get increasingly unrealistic and different from real poker including things like five of a kind, and a pair being worth more than a royal flush.

If you tried to take the skills you learn from balatro to a poker table you would get kicked out basically immediately.

[–] Stern 19 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I place a torn up joker on the table, a tarot card, a llanowar elf card, and a pair of threes

"So with my score multiplier basically I own the casino."

The dealer frantically calls security

[–] [email protected] 14 points 19 hours ago

"Sir, you can't bring stone slabs to the table and play them as if they were cards. Also, where did these glass shards come from?"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

I've never gambled, but I'm pretty sure if I got 1.630e11 chips at a casino, something bad would happen to me, the casino, and the economy if I cashed it out. I think that's 84 billion chips....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Times are different now, there's no more turning up in a ditch. If you start winning too often, they're gonna keep an eye on you and try to determine if you're cheating. If you're not, they're gonna ask you to leave and ban you from the casino before you can actually win anything significant — the justification given is that it's their casino and they can refuse entry to whoever they want. If you are cheating, then you're just going to jail.

[–] CrazyLikeGollum 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

It's 163 Billion chips.

1.630e11 is the same as 1.630 x 10^11

Which probably wouldn't be that bad for the economy, but it might bankrupt the casino, depending on the value of the chips.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Whoops, off by a bit, lol

[–] [email protected] 16 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I know this is anecdotal but I'm now living in a ditch because of Balatro. I never gambled before in my life and all the poker knowledge Balatro me taught caused me to start extreme gambling and now I'm dead in a ditch.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Can't. I'm a little too dead for pics

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Yup that checks out. Say hi to Betty White for me!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago

have some passerby take the picutres, you dummdumm

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[–] [email protected] 170 points 1 day ago (12 children)

If you search for "poker" on PEGI's site, it seems that many games which are actually about simulated gambling are rated 12 or 16. They seem to think Balatro is more likely to expose children to realistic gambling than, say, Prominence Poker or Pure Hold'em World Poker Championship, which seems completely bizarre, given that those games are about playing poker and Balatro is a fancy kind of solitaire with no betting.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The pathetic thing is games of the ilk of balatro and luck be a landlord (also OG peggle) are actually the kind of game that plays with your gambling impulses but in a healthy and fun way, these games should be celebrated for subverting the language of gambling to make something beautiful, how pathetic to have so little actual understanding of video games and yet have this kind of power to impact the industry.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I've always suspected I might be susceptible to gambling addiction so I stay out of casinos.

Instead, I go to the arcade. Which is like a low stakes child casino. Win a bunch of tickets and then either buy something stupid with them, or, just straight give them to some kid.

My point being, we've specifically constructed casino-like facilities for children and it's regularly accepted, so why should Balatro be different?

[–] LookBehindYouNowAndThen 3 points 7 hours ago

There's a scam to steal money from kids in pretty much every grocery store near where I live. We call them claw machines.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Gambling at an arcade is exactly the same. All you've done is lower the stakes so hopefully it couldn't affect you.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago

Yeah how dare you pay $9.99 one time to gamble all you want! If you're gonna get those dopamine hits, you better be spending real money at the tables!

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Is the rating purely because it uses playing cards? Poker hands?

Yahtzee and literal poker with betting are included in Nintendo clubhouse/worldwide 51 and it's rated Pegi-12.

Would balatro get a pass if it used cards numbered 1-13 instead of traditional cards?

This whole thing is bonkers.

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