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"We are raising funds to support a critical legal defense in the fight against unchecked corporate power and a system that continues to favor the few over everyone else. This case isn't just about one individual—it's about challenging a status quo that protects the interest of the powerful at the expense of justice and fairness," read one of the fundraising pages that was quickly removed by GoFundMe.

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[–] pjwestin 152 points 1 day ago (56 children)

During the Great Depression, people were so angry at banks that they rooted for bank robbers. Things are so bad now that we're just straight up rooting for cold-blooded executions. Censoring people's online activities won't make this anger go away. The genies out of the bottle now, and if billionaires don't want any more dead CEOs, there will need to be fundamental, radical changes to our society.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Billionaires deserve to live in fear.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

"In fear" are the key words here.

If I stole hundreds of dollars from people in my town and my name was public information, I'd be scared shitless.

Billionaires steal millions and not just in dollars. The way I see it, Luigi took out a serial killer, not a businessman.

I would like to remind everyone that while I do wish the worst for billionaires, I do not legally condone violence of any kind. I will however smile if I hear about bad things happening to bad people.

[–] Jumpingspiderman 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Billionaires should not exist. Tax them out of existence. If they don’t exist, they won’t be vigilante targets.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

It shouldn’t just be a cap either. Net worth topping $1B should just be a reset button. Automatic bankruptcy. It should be something to actively fear and avoid, not just a score to max out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah, billionaires! We’re just trying to help you!

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[–] RangerJosie 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No they don't.

Deserve to live I mean.

I will not elaborate further.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The genies out of the bottle now, and if billionaires don't want any more dead CEOs, there will need to be fundamental, radical changes to our society.

I don't expect radical changes. I expect them to make the minimal concessions they believe to be enough to make people just happy enough to not depose more CEOs

[–] pjwestin 26 points 1 day ago

I actually don't expect CEOs and billionaires to make any concessions. Honestly, this is how I imagine the next few years going:

Right now, billionaires are waking up to the fact that the majority of Americans want them dead. CEOs will start beefing up security while politicians and pundits try to spin this, and they'll all hope this was a one-off. It won't be. Sure, there probably won't be another assassin who escapes and leads police on a five day manhunt, but there will surely be a guy with an AR-15 who takes out billionaire or CEO before getting gunned down himself by cops or private security.

Billionaires will start lobbying for protections from Congress, probably through special treatment from federal law enforcement and a push for gun control. This will only further enrage the public, who have faced mass shootings in schools and churches without any response. On top of that, the Trump administration is gearing up for an era of naked corruption, which is going to make the billionaire class even less popular

All in all, I think we're heading towards a period of political instability and violence. Maybe it will end with public rage being channeled into a series of reforms like FDR managed with the New Deal. Maybe we'll devolve even further into oligarchy and authoritarianism as American society collapses. Either way, I think there will be radical change.

Anyway, that's my theory. Maybe I'm wrong, and this will be a blip, but I don't think so. This feels like a very different, very significant moment.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

That'd still be helpful, last time they gave us "Just enough to put down the pitchforks."

That was the "New Deal"

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[–] phoneymouse 70 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They let the guy who leaked Trump’s tax returns hold a gofundme, but folks didn’t really help him out as much as he needed.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/charles-littlejohns-legal-defense-fund

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This situation has me pondering 2 hypotheticals.

  1. How long until people start posting the names of individuals perceived as traitors (eg the McSnitch, the journalists shilling for Thomson, the politicians leading the charge against Mangione, etc)?

  2. Can he realistically be tried at all? A broad cross section of people are really supportive of Mangione. We're in such a weird timeline that I could potentially imagine groups like Black Block and Proud Boys standing side-by-side on this one.

[–] Maggoty 5 points 23 hours ago

If they could get bank robbers convicted in the 1920's they'll get someone to convict Mangione. Unfortunately the offline world is a lot more split about this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Have they proven to that Luigi was the guy who killed trigger?

We have seen nothing to prove this.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's weird that one of the pieces of evidence used to arrest him was finding a "Ghost Gun, cheap 3D Printed Firearm meant to be discarded after a single use! Recently used!"

Which is incredibly sus, why would he still have that after leaving the state?

That just screams "Planted evidence"

[–] Qwazpoi 4 points 23 hours ago

It's a 3d printed Glock lower. It's not meant to be discarded after a single use any more than a regular polymer lower would be

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Doesnt need to be, they have already turned him into the lightning rod. Regardless of his innocence or guilt he is the focus now.

[–] Iheartcheese 7 points 1 day ago
  1. buckle up shits gonna get weird.
[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Did they allow Rittenhouse to use GoFundMe?

Surely, Luigi is innocent until proven guilty too.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago

When you’re only targeting poor people, they let you do it. You can kill anyone.

[–] SeriousMite 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just checked on that because I was curious. Looks like they only allowed fundraising for Rittenhouse once he had been acquitted.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/gofundme-says-rittenhouse-fundraising-ok-on-their-site-now-that-he-is-acquitted

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rittenhouse is still a murderer, you can't change my mind.

Pro-tip: It's not self-defense if you started the fight.

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[–] [email protected] 185 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Huh? Isn't he entitled to the best defence he can get?

Innocent until proven guilty, remember.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was going to make a joke about how crowd funding legal fees is only OK for ex presidents and right wings nutjobs, but I thought somebody might not understand the sarcasm and agree.

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[–] [email protected] 328 points 2 days ago (9 children)

...But it's okay for people to run many, many GoFundMe pages that support Trump's legal affairs. Got it.'

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[–] MapleEngineer 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

They're fucking terrified. The reaction of the public to this assassination has shocked them. They understand that they need to crush this guy and they need to crush the swell of public support or this is the end of unfettered capitalism. When the few have everything and the many have nothing the many rise up and take back everything and the cycle starts again. Every single dollar in every rich guy's bank account came from the hard work of non-rich people. There are thousands of them and hundreds of millions of us. We can just rise up and take what they have. They have to stop this before it builds and before the majority realize that we can do it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

They expected us to go "We don't condone violence!" or "Think of the billionaires!"

They weren't ready for him to go down as a folk heroes, and honestly if it weren't for places like Lemmy he wouldn't have because the corponet will ban your ass for cheering at this.

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[–] taiyang 229 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Absolutely a double standard but an easy to imagine one. I was just thinking how the right used GoFundMe for that racist prick Rittenhouse (among others).

Can we just have our class warfare already? It's ok to kill black folks not heaven forbid you actually eat the rich.

[–] kautau 105 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What's most ironic to me is that gofundme is often used by those who have been denied insurance coverage to get help to pay for medical treatment. I guess at this point they're just dipping into the "please support the salt party, as slugs for salt, that's where we want our money to go."

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